steve bannon earn s their trust.eitbart dies. steve bannon does a lot, i think, to rectify the health of the financial health of breitbart and expands its platform quite dramatically. and also, what i get into in the piece, which i found interesting, is that quite a few of the republican consultants i talked to mention that steve bannon often appeared dressed like a homeless person. in fact -- william: he still kind of looks like it. vicky: he wears a suit and a tie, but, you know, the first you have photographs seen is of him in his track .ants and all disheveled one of ted cruz's political consultant said to me very , a brilliant strategy in this very strange kind of rubik's cube like world of uncomfortable codependency dependencies that make up the political world, because if you are a political want the donors who you are so reliant on to just focus on your brain, to your -- you know, on your strategy. you don't want to be looking at your cufflinks, or how you eat. that can make a huge difference. they can abando

steve bannon earns their trust. you know, andrew breitbart dies. steve bannon does a lot, i think, to rectify the health of -- the financial health of breitbart and expands its platform. also what i get into the piece which i find very interesting is that quite a few of the republican consultants i talked to mentioned that steve bannon, he often appeared at the white house as a homeless person. >> cohan: he still looks almost like a homeless person. >> well, he wears a suit and a tie. but a number of times he was seen in his track pants and all disheveled. one of ted cruz's political consultants said that's actually a very brilliant strategy in this very strange sort of rubik's cube world of uncomfortable co-dependies that makes up the political world because if you are a political consultant, you want the donors who you are so reliant on to just focus on your brain, on your strategy. you don't want them suddenly looking at your cuff links, or how you eat a bread roll. that can make a huge difference. they can aband

from there, they invested in breitbart, which is of course, when they come across steve bannon, and steven earn their trust. andrew breitbart dies, steve think, tos a lot, i rectify the health of the financial health of breitbart and expand the platform. in theo, what i get into piece, which i found interesting, is that quite a few of the republican consultants i talked to mention that steve often appeared dressed like a homeless person -- william: he still kind of looks like it. vicky: he wears a suit and a tie, but, you know, the first glance you see of him is in his trump-pence, all disheveled, -- track pants, all disheveled. a very brilliant strategy in this very strange kind of rubik's cube like world of uncomfortable codependency dependencies that make up the political world, because if you are a political consultant you want the donors you are so reliant on to just focus on your brain, to what is your strategy. you don't want to be looking at your cufflinks. or how you eat. that can make a huge difference. they can abandon you because of things like that. turning out looking like a

steve bannon credits kellyanne conway with saving trump. o doing, by the way, implicitly admitting they thought they were going to lose, which they say they didn't think but they clearly did. bannon says if kellyanne had not been there when the firestorm hit, i don't know if we would have made it. the article says bannon says it was kellyanne's presence that led wavering women and conservative voters to think if she could still support trump, i can too. >> there might be some fuel to that. if you remember back in august when she took the position, she was heralded by many of us and still is, you know, to a certain extent as somebody who kind of understood the establishment, understood politics as usual and not the -- >> came from working with -- >> not chaotic, you know, as donald trump was. also the campaign manager at a time when he was getting hit with these allegations of really having a bad relationship -- quite frankly, back to the ak says hollywood tape, need i say more. >> to which she is referring. >> to have a woman leading the cam

is there one good headline about steve bannon anywhere? zine calls him president bannon. >> that's true, that's very complimenta complimentary. >> then threatening representatives who, by the way, were elected by the people in their own district. at the end of the day, it's the breakdown, the gary cohn faction versus the bannon faction. >> and where do you put priebus in that equation? >> out. >> outside of that fight. >> but do you think he's in or out? in theory, he should have been running a lot of what was going on. >> everyone is out to get him. >> and where is pence? >> the long knives have been out for reince for weeks now. like a lot of factions are going after priebus. >> it will be the wrong person. >> not exactly sure why. >> speaking of jared -- >> they should be going after bannon. >> -- a new white house office that will attempt to fulfill key campaign promises and overhaul the federal bureaucracy. the white house office of american innovation is, quote, designed to infuse fresh thinking into washington. the office will report

charlie: how did steve bannon and donald trump come together? : they met in 2011 or 2012. , but reallytroduced the evolution of stephen bannon coming into donald trump's world was a dinner with senator jeff sessions and stephen miller at the so-called breitbart in the sea in 2013. --breitbart embassy in 2013. they were wanting to do something about the latino voter. bannon believed there should be a more hardline view of immigration. that very evening, bannon tried to convince jeff sessions to run for president and sessions said no, i am not that kind of guy, i am content in the senate. bannon went looking for another candidate and a couple of months after that dinner, he saw trump speak at cpac. he had met him before but have never heard the fiery rhetoric. from rock the house down. bannon had been interested in sarah palin. he saw in a trump someone at least as charismatic if not more so than sarah palin. series ofough a events that he insinuated his way into donald trump's world. notlie: for people who have read about steve bannon, how would y

and they used to be run by steve bannon. >> rose: of course. but where was bannon? is bannon saying that to trump and simply was overruled? or was he in this case saying something else? >> well, i call him the bannonistas the people at breitbart who are bannon's friends. they are certainly against the speaker and they are running a campaign against him on breitbart almost daily. but inside the white house bannon say little more intriguing because he's got to be careful and he has been careful. he hasn't mounted any campaign i'm told inside the white house against ryan. and he told ryan, they did have some tensions over strategy. bannon went to the house on thursday night and said look, i want a list of who was with trump, and who was against trump. but health care, the leadership said we don't want a list like that that makes us a little uncomfortable. and that's where they had a break. >> rose: that's where what? >> where ryan and bannon had a break with strategy. ryan didn't want to put his members on the floor to vote for a bill that would fail. because that only

when you think of economic nationalism, you think of steve bannon. : that is what he told me that he had said to paul ryan when they met before the inauguration to hash out tax reform. up to that point, bannon pretty much loathed ryan. he believed that paul ryan stood for everything that was reprehensible at the -- about the republican policy. austere fiscal conservatives that did not understand what the working-class was feeling. on tax reform, they achieved a kind of bromance. particularly over the border adjustment tax. i asked president trump, are you in on this? i have heard mixed messages from the white house about whether this is your thing. he said, i am the king of that. he then went on to explain to me that every other country has an import tax except for the u.s.. he said we are the only fools that do not have it. that is factually inaccurate. what other countries have is a value added tax. that is not corporate tax grafted onto an import tax that he is proposing. charlie: how did steve bannon and donald trump come together? robert: they me

amy: that is steve bannon speaking last month. u mentioned, jane, robert mercer starter rebekah was part of bannon's entourage at cpac and suggest mercers are not ideologically aligned with bannon on some issues. can you talk more about the relationship between bannon and the mercers? even the possibility that bannon does not see himself that long in the white house? >> i'm sorry, i did not hear from the possibility that bannon does not seem what? amy: see himself that long in the white house. >> from what i have been able to figure out, bannon and rebekah mercer are quite close. they are partners politically. she is the money and the team and he is the kind of political vision. there are people who know the mercers who have worried that they are kind of evolution into this tremendous political influence role is the work of bannon. that he may have become a kind of sin golly to the whole family. but did anyway, this into be working closely together. in the past they have talked a lot quite frequently. bannon is a social guest of th

you just interviewed steve bannon. do you think breitbart is helping steve bannon push his white house agenda? >> sure. breitbart is built in steve bannon's image. i don't know how much steve is involved in the coverage any more. he says he's not. there have been reports, talking to reporters after stories, but listen, these are people that steve bannon hired for a specific reason, and they're still in maplace doing the job hired them to do. so sure, i think largely, they're helping push the trump agenda. i do think that they're, they're sort of attacks on paul ryan and reince priebus aren't helpful to steve. i think steve likes having reince priebus as chief of staff in the white house. i think he does have a lot of respect for him and what, and what reince brings to the table. >> what did you learn about bannon though? >> my reporting on the story is focussed on his upbringing and his father, and, you know, i joked on twitter today that the story essentially confirmed that steve bannon was born of human parents, righ

i don't think the steve bannon wing of the party wants risk and wants to be in this world.he health care reveals the party that is neither here nor there. bob: so is steve bannon the soul isthe trump presidency, why speaker ryan driving the consensus? david: he has a coherent worldview and he knows who the people are, so he will defend them. mixture isnnon incoherent. in all why the bill is parts of the party, neither here nor there. that's why i think the ryan plan is taking over. they've been coming up with various plans for years. there's no functioning white house apparatus. the administration has not even -- they have not even nominated people for the whole host of jobs. is thete house principles, then all these deputies. the deputies are not there throughout the administration. so then you go to the state thertment, the treasury, defense. the secretaries are probably just making coffee. you can't run a white house with this. bob: you wrote about how the health care proposal could cost -- cause disruption. you looked at the medicaid aspect. it phases out the medicaid b

i don't think the steve bannon ants risks, wants to be in uncertain world.he health care reveals the party that is neither here nor there. bob: so with steve bannon the soul of the trump presidency, why is speaker ryan driving the process? david: i find him obnoxious, but he has a coherent worldview and he knows who the people are, so he will defend them. the ryan-bannon mixture is an incoherent mixture. that is why this bill is disliked on all wings of the party neither here nor there. , that's why i think the ryan plan is taking over. they have been out this longer, coming up with various plans for years. there's no functioning white house apparatus. the administration has not even -- they have not even nominated people for the whole host of jobs. the white house is the principles, then all these deputies. the deputies are not there throughout the administration. so then you go to the state department, the treasury, the defense department. the secretaries are probably just making coffee. you can't run a white house with four people. you cannot get anything

we're told there's friction between reince priebus and those aligned with steve bannon. officials are saying some are using it to build their own power, will they build a bridge to democrats to get bills pass s ed? these are the same that president trump blamed after failing to repeal obamacare while on solving paul ryan. then over the weekend the president seemed to back away from that tone with a tweet telling people to watch judge jeani jeanine pirro on fox news. >> does the president want paul ryan to resign? >> i did not talk to the president about the tweet. there was no preplanning here. >> but why would he say watch her and then that's the first thing out of her mouth? >> because he wanted to do judge jeanine a favor. >> so does he want paul ryan to step down? >> no, he doesn't. >> a ryan spokesman says mr. trump was clear his tweet was not meant to be a shout at the speaker. staff aligned with priebus says the staff were quick will spread -- about ryan. >> cracks within the ultra conservative house freedom caucus over its role in scuttling the obamacare. ted poe

bannon, wet to steve were quite alarmed when steve bannon was announced as the new chief strategist. breitbart,eadership, in his own words, he chose to position it as the platform for the all right. -- alt right. anyone who traffics in those doesn't ideas don' belong down the hall in the white house. whenever anti-semitism appears, the president and vice president and the people around him will continue to call it out. host: is it fair to call steve bannon a white to premises? -- white supremacist? guest: the complexity of having the moral complexity of someone who accretive breitbart is incredibly troubling -- who created breitbart is incredible troubling. host: a new report in "usa today." guest: governor cuomo has been great on these issues. and theye been jcc's schools and our offices targeted -- day schools and our offices targeted. they are targeted jewish cemeteries in st. louis -- the jewish community has dealt with anti-semitism for ages. we have seen cemeteries metallized in the past. we have seen synagogues defaced in the past. we've never seen a pattern like this. whether

steve bannon. who used to run breitbart, now a top white house advisor, he remains a mist troy many people around the country. i'm going to talk to a reporter who just profiled him and shed new light on the origins of his views. that's next. knowing where you stand has never been easier. except when it comes to retirement. at fidelity, you get a retirement score in just 60 seconds. and we'll help you make decisions for your plan... to keep you on track. it's your retirement. know where you stand. >>> for months, theory and specklation have swirled in washington and in the media involving trump and russia, meddling, collusion, all sorts of claims, suspicions, accusations swirling around. what we don't yet know for sure is if the fbi is investigating any of this. now, some members of congress are saying that they want to launch their own investigations and they need to know what, if anything, is already the subject of a criminal investigation. >> if there is no criminal investigation of the trump cam

you write that steve bannon who is expected to fly from washington, d.c., to florida saturday afternoon attend a dinner there with mar-a-lago with donald trump and jeff sessions and others. what more have you learned about that? >> well, my sources tell me that the president has been at mar-a-lago since friday, and he remains very unhappy with the idea that the intelligence community, in his view, may in some way be aligned against him and steve bannon issue his chief strategy has a view of the intelligence community and he phrases it as a so-called deep state and what he means by that is the obama administration allies and so there's this anxiety within the white house and in the president's inner circle that there could be lingering issues and that's what led to the president suggesting in his twitter account that certain things could be happening even though there was no evidence offered. >> do you think when it comes to these tweets and the accusation of wiretapping that steve bannon had any idea that this was going to come from the president? >> there was a sense that the president

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and steve bannon. until a few months ago, he was running breitbart.t bannon has no more connections to what breitbart is posting? >> i don't think there's any question that steve has significant influence. look at some of the hours a in the white house. he brought over julia hawn who wrote the story in october alleging paul ryan was working with hillary clinton to get her elected and undermine president trump. there's a direct line between what you see at breitbart and really the political ambitions of steve bannon. and this is just a continuation of that. it's designed to set up the speaker. >> so again, basically if you're following all of this, you're suggesting that steve bannon, as of last night, was trying to set up house speaker paul ryan to be the fall guy if obamacare -- if the repeal of obamacare doesn't pass? >> when you look at the story they published, a lot of editorializing using quotes from people like senator rand paul alleging that somehow speaker ryan has misled the president about his ability to get this bill passed. there are a lo

in addition to reince priebus, steve bannon on the hill right now. these are more moderate republicans meeting and the president trying to of course out how he can walk the line, thread this needle in keeping these more conservative members much the caucus on board and winning over support from the moderates, getting to the number they need. the white house is still hoping this can happen tomorrow that it will be a legislative victory for the president before the week is over. right now it's a treacherous path to passage. >> it certainly is. sara murray at the white house. let's get more on all of this. the number two democratic in the white house, the minority whip. >> thank you, wolf. >> what's your reaction? i don't know if you've gone through the new congressional budget office report, the scoring of this republican legislation. what's your reaction to it. >> the bill keeps getting worse and worse and, of course, the deficit reduction the republicans were claims have been ham by the changes they made. not only are the same 20 million losing their

and i don't think -- i know steve bannon does not agree with that. so he's pushing us towards on the conflict national security front. and then i'm also worried about the fact that at breitbart and elsewhere they've shown support national security front. and for far right governments in eastern europe and western europe and he seems to have a certain affinity for authoritative -- authoritarian governments like in russia. i could go on. but i don't want to give a long answer. i think he is a poisonous influence in the white house that could cause all kinds of calamities for our country. also one of the ones that seems to think that our existing alliances aren't worth much. and i've been worried about that as well. >> poisonous is a pretty strong word. >> yeah, it is. president trump i think it's fair, accurate, and nonpartisan to say, has an uneasy relationship with the truth. i want to ask you what implications that has for national security. we talked about north korea. say the president has to try to rally americans for military action in north kor

why would steve bannon be behind this? >> well, that's awfully interesting. from the beginning, you now it was going to be a very complicated bromance between donald trump and paul ryan. obviously, you have a complicated bromance between steve bannon and reince priebus. look, can you not overstate how close paul ryan and reince we have bus are. so for this to be going on, it has to be a reflection of things going on inside the white house. we have been getting a lot of happy talk about ryan and trump are absolutely on the same page. priebus and bannon are absolutely on the same page. if that were true, i think it's highly unlikely you would be having this attack from breitbart. also, there is a larger context here, which is to look at how all of trump world is reacting to this it's not just breitbart. it is the dredge report. it is a lot of the spokes people who are most closely associated with trump who have been very quote/unquote anti-republican establishment, interestingly enough, even though donald trump is said he's 100% in nafr of this health care plan

. >> remember breitbart was the site run by steve bannon. this as we await report from the congressional budget office on the price tag of the new republican bill. joining us u austan goolsbee from university of chicago under president obama. steven moore, distinguished visiting fellow at the heritage foundation. steven advised president trump when he was a candidate and sometime after. nop one will be worse off financially under this plan. are those problematic comments. there are tens of millions of americans worse off under obamacare. it's led to skyrocketing costs of health care. 22% increases across the country in terms of premiums which is a

steve bannon is a very interested advisor to the president. think he is brilliant, one of the smartest people that donald trump put in the west wing. as is jared kushner. he is a lot of people. there are a lot of obstacles and challenges in front of him. it's not that every person in the white house can be a part of every project. i wouldn't read anything whatsoever into what steve bannon not being on this particular project -- and, he might be in the background somewhere with some ideas of his own. >> martha: governor mike huckabee on day 67. we are only 67 days and prayed sometimes it feels more than that. good to see you, as always. still to come tonight, a facebook owned messaging app is finding itself at the center of the london terror investigation. as of now, the messages are being hidden from the authorities. should businesses be compelled to share what is on those apps with the authorities? debate straight ahead. plus, after the white house efforts to undo obamacare derailed, president trump says he may turn to democrats to pass futur

you used to work at breitbart, you know steve bannon. i want to throw up this steve bannon quote. it's element one and then we'll go to element two. this is a quote about the health care fallout. the hill article was reporting on the report, bannon apparently had a conversation with the freedom caucus in the eisenhower executive office building when some members visited the white house. he said guys, look, this is not a discussion, this is not a debate. you have no choice but to vote for this bill. here's the responses quote, which i love, according to the report. one of the freedom caucus members said about what bannon said, one of the members replied, you know, the last time someone ordered me to do something, i was 18 years old, and it was my daddy, and i didn't listen to him either. is this the steve bannon you know, the person who walks in and just says you will do this or else? >> yeah. i've said before steve ran breitbart very much like a dictatorship. it was his way or the highway. he had no appetite for dissention, no appetite for pushback, no dissent opinions. he had no

. >>> white house chief strat gist steve bannon has been called everything, from controversial to theesident. he doesn't like doing a lot of media. big with the media enemy riff. michael bender, wall street reporter just interviewed bannon, big scoop. a man who deserves understanding, seeing how he has so much influence on our democracy right now. at the core of this interview, you talk about what bannon defines as economic nationalism and it being born from his father's own financial struggles coming out of the 2008 recession/depression, depending on how you want to look at it. what did you make of it? >> thanks for having me on. i think steve bannon has thought of a lot about these issues. a veracious reader, grew up talking about politics at the table, and his interest in this sort of latest political revolution, tea party uprising is rooted in a lot of ways in his richmond blue collar upbringing. his dad worked at at&t for 50 years with a high school education. his grandfather worked at the same company for 48 years. and then -- put a lot of savings, a lot of work into buying comp

[laughter] and his two chief aides happen to be two of my friends, steve bannon and steven miller. [applause] great americans. and the three of them put together this inaugural address which is a confrontation. it's the first time, a confrontation with this racist left. identity politics, racist left. finish remember the inaugural. trump said if we are loyal to our country, we will be loyal to each other. if you have opened your heart to patriotism, there will be no room for prejudice. we are black and brown and white, but we bleed patriot red. the american idea is the antithesis of identity politics which is now the ideology in all our universities and all of our schools. the american idea is the exact opposite. it's that all people are created equal by their creator and endowed with the same inalienable rights that government can't take away. everybody is to be judged on their merits, not on their origins; ethnic, racial or whatever. i don't know how to say gender only. gender origin. that's the american idea, that we face each other on our individual merits, and we are accountab

you spoke to steve bannon and that is not true. the supportcans get of the white house that are running against people that vote no, like you? i am not talking about any specific conversations about that in the white house. but i will comment on that one because that is one i think goes against to the president is and what he said. i can tell you that making a of runningreat somebody against me in a primary is not something he has done, nor is it something that happened in a reported meaning -- meeting. if those reports were true i unnamedcourage those gop sources to actually named themselves. i would be glad to go with them to the white house and try to work it out. if we are said, worried about a primary, if my job is so precious to me that i worry about a primary for doing what is right for my district and the american people, i am in the wrong job. this is a temporary job, of which i am doing the very best i can to represent the people of western north carolina. themieve that representing transforms from coast to coast. it hope

tony about steve bannon. he's been around since even before you were around, right? > steve and the president had a long relationship. steve is someone who is exceptionally brilliant. most people don't give them the credit that he deserved candidly. navy officer, went to goldman sachs, made a fortune, owned a small piece of something called seinfeld. maybe you've heard of it. steve has been very, very well. then he went off and worked in hollywood and he started with andrew breitbart who was a visionary, joint that and build breitbart into what it is today. steve has been advising, counseling mr. trump, candidate trump and president trump for a long time. i think you have in steve bannon someone who the president understands they share a very similar philosophy. that's why steve and the present at such a bond, because that relationship has been long and developed and the fundamentally agree on most of the issues. >> he gets criticized for being everything from being a racist right on through. so does the president. how does that make you feel when this is a person, tr

steve bannon has star power, kellyanne conway, but they're not members of the house. rtant. get them out of the room and let steve scalise get to work. >> bakari sellers can't wait to get in. >> i have to point this out, because the republicans and donald trump had this misconception of where the blame false. if this does not -- >> on you, apparently. >> apparent they're going to blame me. but i know they're going to say, because mo brooks said it, this is barack obama's fault. no, the american people are smarter than this. when this bill does not pass, this is paul ryan and donald trump's baby. you had seven years. today is the seven-year anniversary of people actually getting quality health care in this country. and there's no democrat that will tell you that we don't need to fix obamacare, we do. we need to make sure we're infusing money in the state pool to insurance companies stay. something the republican party can work on doing. but obamacare has saved lives. and they're having a hard time dealing with that. and i'm just relishing in the fact that paul ryan coul

it's steve bannon's agenda. steve bannon has told us.y the way, steve bannon is not a conservative. cozying up to russia is not conservative. putting out a budget that will blow an absolutely hole in the national debt another $10 trillion is not conservative. there is nothing conservative about any of this. >> why don't i rephrase myself and saying they are pushing a very dangerous agenda, an extremely dangerous one. whatever it is that is being pushed on president trump, it has nothing to do with respecting the constitution and respecting the office. it just doesn't. i don't know what happened saturday morning. i don't know what was going on in his head. as you pointed out weeks ago, president trump's saturday morning routine also involves spinning out of control and sending out tweets that then ricochet around the world. there was the saturday before he was sworn in when he tweeted that congressman john lewis was all talk and no action or results. john lewis, on saturday, january 28th, he attacked "the new york times" and "the washingt

steve bannon, kellyanne conway. are not people that are going to temper the president's worst impulses. these are either enablers or people with such radical crazy ideas they will send the ship si sinking. when steve bannon says he wants to get rid of the administrative state, you can't run a government, what is the government if not an administrative state. they're just killing the government by attrition here, the fact there's nobody at the state department, the fact there's nobody at the justice department except at the highest level, the whole government remains unfilled. on the one hand you could say it's incompetence, on the other hand, this is steve bannon's vision. remember grover norquist said he wanted to make government so small you could drown it in a bathtub. this government has disappeared. there's no government to drown in the bathtub because nothing is filled in the first place. it's very worrisome that there are so few people who can relate to trump. you have priebus chief of staff but doesn't have

we have talked about steve bannon and reince. we have close friends working mp's daughter and his son-in-law who are worldly and seen as different types of operatives in the white house because of their business backgrounds and their moderate tics. and priebus are now aligned, seeing these new yorkers as real challenges. terrific piece that captured something that had not occurred to a lot of us. bannon.t know steve da he has a worldview. he really has a worldview. some of us think it is dark, but it was attractive to donald if there are problems, failures, things going south, i have a suspicion that bannon may be more persuasive than gary. charley: the question is, will he be more persuasive than ku shner. >> sometimes i see that he is on non's side and sometimes the other. he has gotten good press and has not offended either side. charlie: maybe he is shrewd. cagey.is and he is k.g he acts as a psychologist for these warring factions, bringing them into the couch in his office and he tries to mediate. this is his role. press an

. >> yes, like steve bannon. he's both bad and sick. ( laughter ) >> exactly! theory. steve bannon was curseed by a wicked witch, and now he's cursed to forever look how america feels. ( laughter ) >> that makes sense. >> that tweet's good, but it's got some serious competition right now, roy, from this one: "mitt romney had his chance to beat a failed president, but he choked like a dog. now he calls me racist, but i am the least racist person there is." >> he-- >> but he is obviously overcompensating here, roy. we know there are so many people that are less racist than donald trump. like me. i'm way less racist. i work with all these black people, and you never hear me complaining. ( laughter ) >> what would you complain about? >> come on, roy. you know the way you guys are. ( laughter ) >> audience: oh! >> anyway, we're out of time, you guys. so go to thirdmonthmania.com, and vote for which tweet you think should advance to the next round. back to you, trevor. >> say it again, say it again. >> you know, you're doing it again. i'm calling h.r. right now. pam?

steve bannon represents a nationalist worldview, the people at the working class people, the heart of our society are being hurt, let's give them some security. and so one wants to reduce government tone hans freedom and embrace risk. and the populists want to tighten down to increase security. and what is odd to me about this health-care plan which is really much more ryan than bannon is that it introduces more risk into people's lives, and it takes away social support. and so as we sit here we don't know how many people are going to be denied insurance but it will be millions, maybe eight, ten, 15 million and so that's the trump base. and what's odd to me about this health-care plan is it's declaring war on the people who voted for the republican president. by denying them security of theetion insurance plans. by taking subsidies that would go to them and using it for tax cuts for the rich. and then increasing risk in their lives. and i happen to be a guy who likes the idea of tax credits so people can buy insurance but there's no question it increases risk. it puts the onus on us a

guest: i think what i got out of hat, you look at the folks working with donald trump, steve bannon, who is proud to be a nationalist, part of the movement, this is exactly wrong for our country. i think he's getting terrible dvice from people like steve bannon, while on campaign trail, he promised to protect american jobs and everyone wod have healthcare. now a proposal takes it away. he showing his true side, didn't show during the campaign or getting awful advice from people like steve bannon. representative mark pocan joining us to talk about republican healthcare plan and topics. thanks for your time. guest: thank you. host: we'll take a break, to you the "wall street journal," headline talking about the decision by federal reserve rates and thatest decision made yesterday by the yellen.n our next guest will talk about how factors lead to that, it might affect you at home as you consider auto loans and things like that. howard schneider from reuters joins us next when "washington journal" continues. >> anyone working at any hedge short-terminvolved in trading, meaning everyday t

it's built in steve bannon's image.'t know how much he's involved in the coverage anymore, he says he's not. reports of stories after -- but people he hired for a reason and still doing the job he hired them to do. so largely helping push trump agenda. i do think that their attacks on paul ryan and reince priebus are not necessarily helpful to steve. i think steve likes having reince priebus as chief of staff in the white house. i think he does have a lot of respect for him. and what reince brings to the table. >> what did you learn about bannon though? >> my reporting on the story was focused on his upbringing and his father. and i joked on twitter that i the story essentially confirmed that steve bannon was born of human parents. right? this is the guy characterized as angel of death on "saturday night live," in new yorker cartoon as knocking devil off trump's shoulder and saying i'll take it from here. it is a little more complex than that, more nuanced. so i spent some time in richmond with steve's dad. he's 95 year

guest: i think what i got out of h, you look at the folks working with donald trump, steve bannon, who is proud to be a nationalist, part of the movement, this is exactly wrong for our country. i think he's getting terrible dvice from people like steve bannon, while on campaign trail, he promised to protect american jobs and everyone would have healthcare. now a proposal takes it away. he showing his true side, didn't show during the campaign or getting awful advice from people like steve bannon. representative mark pocan joining us to >> quick reminder this coming monday is the start of confirmation hearings for neal gorsuch, president trump's nominee for the supreme court. c-span2 will have live coverage of the hearings which are expected to last three or four days with judge gorsuch testifying on tuesday. it begins at 11:00 a.m. eastern t will include your comments and prime time reair. you can also listen to the hearings on our free c-span radio app. a live picture here of the house budget committee as members consider the republican's health care law replacement. this started at a