steve bannon has been indicted by a grand jury. an arrest warrant we're told hill soon be signed by a judge. coming after bannon refused a subpoena from the house select committee investigating the january 6th insurrection. let's get straight to cnn's jessica schneider on the scene outside the courthouse. what specifically has steve bannon been charged with? >> jake, we now know that steve bannon has been charged with two counts of contempt of congress and the department of justice issuing a release saying that those two counts stem from his failure to appear for a deposition and also his failure to produce documents for the house select committee. obviously, this has been a several week-long process. people around washington, around the country wondering what the department of justice would do. all along the attorney general has been saying that they would follow the facts and the law to possibly prosecute this case. i was inside the magistrate judge's courtroom this afternoon when two attorneys from the u.s. attorney's office here

so, yeah, the documents that the committee is seeking from steve bannon are things that steve bannon has in his possession, presumably, electronic and otherwise. but the committee has the power, as i understand it, to subpoena third parties and that includes documents relating to email records. >> but i'm talking about -- not the committee but the fbi. >> yeah, no, sure. the fbi certainly -- i don't know what the fbi is doing in that regard. the fbi is seeking and has sought and received thousands and thousands of pages of documents and records and communications with respect to all sorts of people who have been charged and probably yet uncharged in connection with the january 6th insurrection. so as far as i know, the fbi is seeking in obtaining that kind of information from steve bannon and from the people who he used to communicate with. >> preet bharara, thank you. >>> more on the breaking news next. steve bannon indicted for contempt of congress. plus, could be it the very end of the control over britney spears? we're expecting a ruling on the pop star's future any moment. stay

trump ally, steve bannon, indicted on two counts of contempt of congress. n court that afternoon. bannon faces one year in prison for stonewalling the january 6th committee,

it's unlikely the committee will ever hear from steve bannon. >> paula, mark meadows and others are stone walling the committee, obviously, how much pressure does this bannon indictment put on them to comc comply? >> not everyone has the resources to fight. i've been speaking to witnesses in the case and some of the witnesses stone walling are waiting to see what happens to steve bannon. will there be blanket reperc repercussions. if no charges were brought, some of the witnesses i'm told would have felt more emboldened to do the same thing but now, they see look, there could potentially be consequences and a cost but again, that does not mean they're going to run to the committee and give them everything they want. some witnesses will likely engage with the committee in a negotiation to try to narrow the topics that they would be willing to cooperate on. some could also potentially shell up and plead the fifth. it is more likely that will get more engagement from the witnesses and it's unlikely we'll see too many more blanket refusals but no kwauguarantee t will get total cooperation fro

steve bannon has been indicted by a grand jury.ming after bannon refused a subpoena from the house select committee investigating the january 6th insurrection. let's get straight to cnn's jessica schneider on the scene outside the courthouse. what specifically has steve bannon been charged with? >> jake, we now know that steve bannon has been charged with two

steve bannon, a well documented liar.t's your take on this situation and what do you think this means for the 30 plus other people who've been subpoenaed by the select committee? >> well, i think that the impact of this we will be able to measure by how much other people are willing to come in. the biggest problem that this investigation has is time. they want, the democrats want this investigation to be done by the late spring, early summer of next year to make sure that they have a detailed authoritative narrative of what happened around the election heading into the 2022 midterms. that is their goal. now, are people like steve bannon able to throw a wrench in that investigation by not cooperating? there are other people that have obviously indicated that they are going to take a similar stance to bannon. they have not been as dismissive as bannon and engaged the committee in someway. what you have here is -- what we'll have to see is that do other people fear being charged by the justice department like bannon and do t

it's unlikely the committee will ever hear from steve bannon. >> so, paula, mark meadows and some other trump allies are stonewalling the -- the committee, obviously. how much pressure does this bannon indictment put on them to -- to comply? >> well, as i just said, look, not everybody has the resources to fight criminal charges in the federal system. i have been speaking with sources in this case, and we know that some of the witnesses who have been stonewalling -- they have been watching to see what happens to steve bannon. will there be any repercussions for his blanket refusal to comply? i know that if there was no indictment, if no charges were brought, some of those witnesses, i'm told, would have felt more emboldened to do the same thing. but now, they see, look, there could potentially be consequences and a cost. but again, it does not mean that they are going to run to the committee and just give them everything they want. some witnesses will likely engage with the committee in a negotiation to try to narrow the topics that they would be willing to cooperate on. some could also

that was the end of that indictment for steve bannon, until today steve bannon had been indictment freeor 15 months. well, at least since trump has been gone from office. but, he has been indicted again, he is charged with two counts of contempt of congress for defying the house committee investigating january six, and the reason that these kinds of charges send shock waves to washington when they drop this afternoon, is not just because the fan in himself is this major trump world figure and a hugely influential voice in right-wing politics, and not even because this indictment is an escalation of the general six investigation but because this indictment breaks new legal ground. no one claiming executive privilege is, which was the excuse bannon gave for not cooperating with the committee, no one has ever been indicted by a grand jury for contempt of congress for doing that. the junior six committee subpoenaed him demanding documents, asking him to sit for a -- because he had conversations with various players including president trump in the days leading to general six. the day before

steve bannon indicted.ing to cooperate with the january 6th select committee. would have been arrested if he didn't. >>> and tonight, the attorney general's warning to other trump allies who may plan to stone wall the investigation. >>> plus, what the prosecution is asking for tonight could be a really big deal. >>> and president biden putting a plan in place tonight to address rising consumer prices but will it work? let's go outfront.

but trump pardoned steve bannon and until today steve bannon has been indictment-free for 15 months, at least since trump's been gone from office. but he's indicted again, charged with two counts of contempt of congress for defying the house committee investigating january 6th. the reason these kind of charges sent shock waves through washington when they dropped this afternoon is not just because steve bannon himself is this major trump world figure and a hugely influential voice in right wing politics and not even just because this indictment is a major escalation of the january 6th investigation, but because this indictment breaks new legal ground. no one claiming executive privilege, which was the excuse that bannon gave for not cooperating with the committee, no one has ever been indicted by a grand jury for contempt of congress for doing that. the january 6th committee subpoenaed bannon in september, demanding documents and ordering him to sit for a deposition because bannon had had meetings and conversations with various players including president trump in the days leading up

nonetheless, this committee has outlined 17 categories of documents that it sought from steve bannon.g into those details now. as i say, i justify g got hired sunday. today is the first day i saw the subpoena in the case. i'm prepared to talk about the process. that's what interests me. >> okay, the process. bannon may not be the last person to sort of face this consequence, which is clear, we don't know at this point in time. process, you said that bannon was acting on the advice of counsel by not testifying or providing documents to the committee. why did you say that? >> because he acted on the advice of counsel. his counsel directed -- his counsel has been clear. he directed him not to appear and not to provide the documents because executive privilege had been invoked. there is no dispute about that. >> so it is not actually a defense. advice of counsel is not a defense on -- >> i disagree with that. >> -- if i may, when it comes to contempt of congress charges such as this, it is very clear there was a 1961 decision, this isn't even anything recent. it is very clear and you know

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steve bannon to turn himself in on monday. for refusing to comply about january 6 committee subpoenas. he could face up to a year in prison. in the days before january 6th bannon was at the willard hotel with giuliani and johnniesman author of the so-called coup memo. the hotel became the insurrectionist's headquarters, bannon regaining full maga insider status after getting booted from trump as white house in 2017 14r bannon gets bounced. >> west wing lightning rod bannon is out as trump's streev strategist. >> he walked right into the breitbart newsroom declaring he feels jacked up and free and says his hands are back on his weapons. >> after bannon was axed, ari melber who is usually in this seat grilled him. >> what's your current relationship with president trump? >> you can see it every day on tv. exactly what people are reporting. president trump is doing his thing. i am doing my thing. remember, i didn't really know president trump that well before i stepped in as ceo of the campaign. >> he said a lot about you when you

i don't see that with steve bannon. right, he's been indicted federally before last year and pardoned on donald trump's way out the door. i think the monday surrender is what i would expect here. >> he's familiar with the mechanics of all of this. >> right. >> bannon was charged with one count related to his refusal to appear for a deposition and another related to his refusal to produce documents. each count carries a minimum of 30 days in jail or maximum sentence of one year behind bars. couldn't steve bannon just appear before the committee and say he's not going to answer any questions? sort of the way that jeffrey clark did? why -- why go through all of this? it's for the show, isn't it? >> yeah. i think that's the only reasonable conclusion. if you look at the indictment, they use that against steve bannon. they say he made no good faith effort whatsoever. he straight up defied us. for that reason i think the prosecution has an exceptionally strong case here. look, there could be real consequences. as you said, on

chair and vice chair of that committee releasing a set of scathing statements overnight aimed at steve bannon witnesses who are toying with the idea of following in bannon's footsteps. and right now they have their sights laser focused on mark meadows, the former president and chief of staff who refused to appear for his deposition yesterday. here's what they said in their statements. quote, steve bannon's indictment should send a clear message to anyone who would try to stone wall our investigation. mr. meadow's actions today choosing to defy the law will force the select committee to force pursuing contempt or others to enforce the speen op. you have republicans toy wg the idea of threatening democrats should this come around if they retake the majority. you have jim jordan, a trump ally, he's the top republican on the house judiciary committee. he tweeted biden eviscerated executive privilege saying they could call up the president's chief of staff ron klain. let's listen to what they had to say on our air this morning. >> i think that must be the strategy to see if they can run out the cl

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steve bannon is a lay person. when the privilege has been invoked by the purported holder of prison vilege, you have no choice. you can't put the jeannie back in the bottle. mr. bannon acted as his lawyer and counseled him by not appearing and not turning over documents in this case. he didn't refuse to comply. he made quite clear that if a court ordered him to comply, he would do that. but he had an obligation to honor the privilege that was invoked and in terms of prosecuting this criminally, it violates settle department of justice policy that is binding on the executive branch. it is outrageous that a criminal charge was brought in this case. it is a misdemeanor. but it is being treated as if it were a capitol case. mr. bannon takes this very seriously. it is outrageous what the government did. the prips pells of equal jifts under law that attorney general garland speaks about are vitally important to us and we all lose when they are selectively used and they violate these simples. >> ysee the guys saying insu

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steve bannon does not have those protections.e of representatives for then majority leader, they held that then attorney general and contempt for not appearing before congress. congress takes things very seriously. when you're talking about a republican house or democratic house, the primacy of congress and its oversight is terrible. republicans and democrats should be able to unify on this. they obviously won't, but if we have a republican house in the future they will have no issue holding democrats in contempt as we are seeing now. it's quite the best option would of been having an independent committee all along. do you want but that blocked by the senate republicans. congressman jamie raskin who is a member of the january house committee had a very strong reaction to the steve bannon indictment. take a look. speak out he violated the law wn he stood us up, when he blew off the subpoena, and he violated the law when he refused to produce the documents and the papers we were looking for. >> chris: the problem for the committee

his case is somewhat different than steve bannon as he was in the white house at the time, steve bannon wasn't. there is another trump ally jeffrey clark who has refused to comply with the subpoena, he is a justice department lawyer and he has cited attorney client privilege is, and he did show up in person and gave them a letter. there are three main people here that have refused to comply while 150 have been talking to the committee. >> luke broad water has been covering, this thank you very much for joining us today. >> thank you. >> daniel goldman served as majority counsel in donald trump's first impeachment, he was assisting the u.s. attorney of new york and he joins me now. dan, how big a deal is this and what happens next? >> well it's a great deal, because rarely as you pointed out has something like this charged, this is a very influential person in trump world as you just heard from some of those rantings in his podcast today. it is a big deal, in many ways it is a big deal because merrick garland is drawing the line in the sand saying i won't be so afraid of partisan politic

adviser steve bannon surrendered himself to federal authorities after being indicted on two counts oftempt of congress for refusing to answer questions or produce documents to the january 6th investigation. now, as usual mr. bannon did his best to make a circus scene outside the courthouse. inside, he and his lawyers seemed focused on dragging the legal fight out as long as portion but here's the other thing going on in the background. the same day bannon's indictment was announced on friday, we learned at the same time trump white house chief of staff mark meadows was also a no show for his subpoenaed appearance before the january 6 investigation. presumably the hope of those conducting the investigation is that the bannon indictment would encourage mark meadows and anybody else to rethink a decision to defy subpoenas from the investigation. if that doesn't work, though, if that desired effect is not achieved, congressman adam schiff predicted over the weekend the committee would, quote, move quickly to also hold trump white house chief of staff mark meadows in contempt of congress.

this is sort of badge of honor for steve bannon. >> i think steve bannon may be trying to prove his loyalty to donald trump. they had a falling out. he got back into trump's good graces and trump i think likes people who are thumbing their nose at congressional democrats, so it wouldn't surprise me if bannon is pleased with this. he's also someone who is not afraid of being prosecuted. most of us don't want to be indicted by the justice department, but mr. bannon has found a way to be indicted twice by the doj, that actually takes quite a bit of doing on his part so i think it's certainly possible he wanted this to happen and now that's been indicted, he now has just, i think this morning it broke he hurd a new attorney. i expect him to call the old attorney as a witness and waive attorney/client privilege and say that he was just following that guy's advice. >> so adam schiff, congressman adam schiff says he thinks that the doj's decision to indict here has an impact to have an impact on other witnesses. do you see the same? as you say, not everybody relishes the idea of being indicted by

steve bannon on free speech. the insurrection on the capitol that turned violent and they want to know what steve bannon knew about what was going to happen on that day. ken delaney, matt miller, thank you so much. >>> let's go back to the courtroom where the prosecution is laying out its close arguments against kyle rittenhouse. >> the rest of the video is the crowd being warded off by gas launched by the police. they launched tear gas which affects the defendant, it affects ryan bals, it affects harris. that group runs away from the street, away from any protesters. at no point in that video do you hear any threat that joseph rosenbaum makes. it's not there. trust me, if the defense had it, they would play it for you. now, they want you to believe that that threat is made, and they also want you to believe that it was something that the defendant took into account when he decided to kill joseph rosenbaum. a question that occurred to me is how would that defendant even know who he is? joseph was wearing a red sh

between steve bannon and the planners of the january 6th rally on the wall.sense, both men have the same fundamental position, weak position that is, they simply fail to show. up and there's no right to do so. there are differences in the sense that, meadows was a current white house staff member, steve bannon hadn't been in the white house in years. so there are differences, but ultimately those differences don't affect the fact that there is no immunity to simply say, i ain't showing up. and that's probably the most significant factor when the committee decides what's step is next. >> let me also ask you about a recent wrote revelation about what happened on and leading up to january six, that has been published in abc news reporter jonathan quarrels new book, which has yet to come out, but is apparently a jackpot of news. even before it gets formally published. the latest revelation for mr. carles reporting is that there was yet another memo, i guess we would call it, another legal issue, argument, put to the vice president pence and his staff, essentially

we will eventually have a trial, united states of america versus steve bannon. if convicted he goes to jail for at least one month and possibly as much as a year. >> bannon's case has been referred to a judge appointed by former president trump. it could potentially take years for the case to play out through the court system. we'll have more on bannon and his history in a few minutes. >>> the standoff at the border between poland and belarus escalates. the polish interior minister says the influx of thousands of migrants is an attack on the european union and an artificial attempt to create a migration crisis. right now officials say there are about 2,000 people waiting to cross over into poland, and they warn that number could double in the next week. things at the border are tense and growing increasingly difficult as temperatures plunge and migrants search for food and ways to stay warm. polish police say the body of a young syrian man was found in the woods near the border friday. no word yet on the cause of death. >>> now we have more from london. as the si

steve bannon indicted by a federal grand jury for contempt of congress. and the other news is about that guy in the right, former trump white house chief of staff, former congressman mark meadows may be heading for the same fate. grand jury's decision on banning came late this afternoon, 22 days after the house voted to hold him in contempt and sent his gaze over to the justice department. he's been charged with refusing to testify, and refusing to produce documents in response to that committee subpoena. house investigators cited bannon's comments the day before the capitol right, the stuff he said out loud and publicly, one of the reasons they want to hear from him. >> it's going to be quite extraordinarily different. and all i can say strap in. the war room, a posse, you've made this happen, and tomorrow 's game day. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow, it's going to be moving, it's going to be quick. >> sounds unambiguous, like a mob movie where the boss pressures his guys not to read him out. trump has directed his former aides not to cooperate

there are some who tried to reduce steve bannon for a character or a caricature. ive, but the history is more complicated. bannon has always looked for these fights. it's not merely a public act. it actually informs his approach to campaigning, governing, it's a part of our national life. it's a view there's always powerful enemy to say fight. the system is broken, it cannot be reformed, it must be deconstructed. that's why he said in trump's first weeks in power leading charges that failed as a matter of governance, like a travel ban that was ultimately pared back. at that time he was a smart guy deliberately leading the government into, basically, breaking a law. a travel ban he ran through, rushed think and checked and was struck down by the courts. bannon continues this type of project. he lives his own life with a spurt of bravado and risk taking. i pressed him about this in our interview back in 2018, bearing down on the questions about his funding. he was cagey, while claiming that raising it was no problem. >> how much money does your group have in. we have

you heard what steve bannon himself said - what steve bannon himself said outside the courthouse.hat is happening to me and you're also hearing from donald trump and his supporters to look at this as a fight they are waging against thejustice waging against the justice department, political persecution in their view, all of this part and parcel of donald trump's attitude from the very beginning ever since he ran for president. it is the elite out to get him and by extension his supporters. more on the bbc news website. a reminder of the breaking news. police in the uk have named the person they believe died in that explosion in a taxi in liverpool on sunday. they believe it is a 32—year—old man. they are saying he is a person who died in that explosion. you may have seen the video of the car exploding outside a hospital in liverpool. further updates on that story in a next top of the programme. it has been another mild and mainly cloudy day. a few outbreaks of rain around. this was the picture of the sun set earlier in wakefield. some clear skies around and through the rest of thi

steve bannon is expected to surrender to authorities.sident biden will sign that bipartisan infrastructure bill into law. both the house and senate are back in session. and the president meets virtually with chinese president xi jinping for the first time since taking office. it all comes as new polling shows the president's policies are more popular than the president himself. 63% of americans supporting the infrastructure bill, 58% supporting the build back better act. while president biden's approval rating hits a new low at just 41%, mostly driven by fears over inflation. director of the economic council addressing those concerns this morning. >> there's no doubt inflation is high right now. it's affecting americans' pocketbooks and affecting their outlook. but it's important that we put this in context. when the president took office, we were facing an all-out economic crisis. because of the actions the president is taking, we're now seeing an economic recovery that most people didn't think was possible then. so the challenge we hav

steve bannon indicted for contempt of congress. and the other news is about the former trump white house chief of staff mark meadows. he may be headed for the same fate. the grand jury's decision on bannon came this afternoon, 22 days after the house voted to send his case over to the justice department and hold him in contempt. he's been charged with refusing to testify, and refusing to produce documents. house investigators cited bannon's comments the day before the capitol riot. >> it's going to be quite extraordinarily different. all i can say is strap in. the war room, a posse, you have made this happen. and tomorrow, it's game day. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. it's going to be moving, it's going to be quick. >> sounds unambiguous. like a mob movie where the boss pressures his guys not to rat him out, trump has directed former aides not to cooperate or hand over documents. he thinks he's shielded by executive privilege and that won't work here. today, bennie thompson and liz cheney issued a statement reading, ste

, that kind of closes the book on steve bannon.hey are not going to get anything from him. even if he is convicted, it doesn't mean he is going to be able to -- they are going to get anything from him. so they want stuff from meadows. meadows is key to understanding what was happening. and i think, frankly, what jonathan karl has revealed is extremely important because it tells you a lot more about the ultimate plan that they had, which is for -- on january 6th mike pence would turn this back, right, to the states, and then eventually set up a system whereby the congressional delegations would vote for president and they believed probably they were right, that that's the way donald trump then wins a second term. so disregarding the voters in six states and then instead going to trump loyalists in congress to get him a second term. that was the plan. and this is a memo written up by jenna ellis, who was before becoming in trump's orbit, she was a traffic lawyer. so this is the kind of thing that they were coming up with, and a lot o

steve bannon is going to get bail, not locked up. it's a misdemeanor, not a violent crime. bannon will make motions ask the judge to throw out the charges, allege there are problems legally. then most cases at this point, the vast majority of federal cases plead guilty, steve bannon doesn't strike me as the pleading guilty type. ultimately, if bannon wants it, he will have a trial. there's an interesting question here about who will decide guilty or not guilty. if bannon wants a jury, he gets a jury. but he might say no, judge, i would like you to be the trior here, you decide guilty or not guilty. in that case it's up to the justice department if they say we're okay with you, judge, the judge will preside over the trial. if the doj says we want a jury. hen the judge dies. i don't make the laws, i just explain them. i know it's confusing. after trial if he's convicted he'll be sentenced to at least one month in prison and he'll have the right to appeal. >> what's his defense? there's no dispute over the fact he didn't show up and not the cooperating. >> executive privilege.

>> i wouldn't dispute it. >> josh, he made the point that steve bannon is essentially casting himself as the anti-pence and making this very public display to the former president. do you think bannon is actually willing to go to jail for the former president? >> you know, i don't. i don't think he is actually willing to go to jail but i also don't think that he thinks he's going to have to. you know, bannon's calculus here, which has been borne out just in the last 24 hours, is that he could use this kind of public display of fealty to trump which, by the way, didn't begin with today's perp walk and it didn't start on january 6th. this has been going on for three years, ever since bannon got fired from the white house. you know, three years ago, trump essentially excommunicated him. >> didn't he call him sloppy steve? >> if you want to see how well bannon's strategy worked, trump put out a statement yesterday praising steve bannon saying quote this country has never done to anyone what they have done to steve bannon. so bannon here has an audience of one and that audience is donald t

steve bannon being sort of led away in a courtroom. that will be used in the disinformation campaigns. there's no choice. this subpoena had to be issued. this subpoena had to be enforced and steve bannon needs to be prosecuted for defying it, but, know, we just should brace ourselves, inevitable, that this wills seen as proof of some giant, you know, conspiracy by the courts and the media and, again, the deep state to silence trump and his supporters. but in a way this is what has to happen as we go through this difficult time in our country. >> you know, having served in

i think the message is significant for steve bannon. the message is even more significant for our institutions defending congress and congressional subpoenas and defending the rule of law which we desperately need in this country. >> on bannon's case, he just douse not show up. he has no real plausible claim. he's a podcaster who's like buddies with the president and there is no callable claim of executive privilege here. given that and he's in this sort of specific different category. literally what happens, he turn himself in and a prosecution gets mounted and is he going to try to mount his defense on executive grounds? i don't understand how it works. >> he'll appear on monday and plead not guilty and they'll go through the trial process and there may be motion and a trial. this trial is not going to happen next week. it will probably be a few months before the trial actually begins. so, that is what will happen in bannon's case. bannon is not compelled to turn over documents or testify by this prosecution. this prosecution may simpl

i want to start with you and steve bannon. in some ways, it was important and interesting news he was indicted. he's facing two counts of contempt of congress. talk about what is next receive bannon, the legal process. >> steve bannon is expected to turn himself in on monday. after that, he will go to the district house in washington, d.c. for his first appearance. we will see what happens, hearing his side, the justice department able to argue why they believe he should be charged with two counts of contempt. people have been waiting to see whether or not the justice department was going to make some sort of statement about the committee's work, the work to get to the bottom of january 6. when steve bannon refused to comply, there were eyes on the justice department. if they would back the committee, enforce subpoenas, or get caught in the legality around executive privilege that happened so many times before during the previous administration. >> steve bannon is expected to turn himself in on monday and appear in court. what

>> the grand jury now has indicted steve bannon for contempt of congress.e u.s. attorney's office here in washington on october 27th for his refusal to provide testimony and documents to the committee that's investigating the january 6th riot at the u.s. capitol. and the justice department has been working on this and deciding whether to present to it a grand jury. that has happened. it it was presented to a grand jury, and the grand jury has returned an indictment charging bannon with contell of congress. there are several interesting things about this, hallie. number one, this is what the committee was waiting for. >> yeah. >> this is now going to turn up the pressure on other people who were on the fence about whether to agree to testify or to honor a request from the former president, who has said that he wanted to exert executive privilege -- assert executive privilege and urging his former aides not to testify before the committee. of course the extent of the president's executive privilege is an open question here. it is up with that the u.s. court o

we are going to go on the offense on this. >> the investigating committee believes steve bannon couldinformation on the january attack. he was summoned to testify, but refused, and for that he was charged with contempt of congress. he faces a year in prison and a $100,000 fine. the committee tweeted, steve bannon's indictment should send a clear message to anyone who thinks they can ignore the select committee. no one is above the law. he set on his podcast on the six that all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. his lawyers argue his communications are protected by legal doctrine of executive privilege. the committee has called this an unsupported premise. more on all of this from our senior north american reporter. reporter: steve bannon as you mentioned was just in his first court appearance where the judge determined he would not be detained prior to trial. he had to surrender his passport and a board travel outside the d.c. area. he has another hearing on friday before the presiding judge, a trump appointee with a fairly distinguished conservative pedigree. as far as trial date

might clearly see how outrageous that is, republicans leaned in and promised revenge on behalf of steve bannonp leaders are seizing on bannon's indictment to contend that democrats are weaponizing doj. warning democrats they will go after biden aids for unspecified reasons if they take back the house majority in the midterms. congressional republicans promising out loud to pervert justice to punish democrats for holding the pardoned steve bannon in contempt of the body image they served is actually the least surprising thing that happened today. but it has catapulted the democratic party's political operation to reinvent himself to take on the gop rule of law and american democracy as aggressively as liz cheney does every single day. politico is reporting on a ferocious line of attack. detailed in a new memo, quote, the moment washington republicans felt their grip on power loosen, they unleashed a full assault culminating in a murderous assault on the capitol. and the introduction of anti-voter legislation across the country. every day, republican demonstrate how dangerous their return to pow

it is no surprise that the committee wanted to speak to steve bannon. day before on his radio show, he more or less laid out what was going to happen. all hell is going to break loose, it's going to be wild. committee wanted to speak to him. he said i'm not going to appear. they issued a subpoena and he still didn't appear. after that, a federal grand jury has ruled he must and it is understood that he will surrender to the authorities on monday and appear in court possibly monday afternoon. it is pre-dramatic. the real significance is not steve bannon, it's all the other people who were part of the trump campaign who chose to follow behind steve bannon and say i'm not going to appear either. how many of them will want to face a federal and time -- indictment for not appearing? nada: as you say, so many people have gone on to follow president trump exerting executive privilege. >> on the once side, people were saying i was working for the president i have executive which i don't have to answer your questions. then you have congress one of the coequal br

what is next for steve bannon and this investigation, paula? >> don, i have to give a huge shout-out to our newly minted associate producer, hannah rabinowitz. she's been staking out the courthouse and will continue to do so as we watch this process unfold. we expect bannon will self-surrender on monday and appear in court monday afternoon. then like anyone, this criminal process will play out. he'll have the opportunity to engage in plea deal negotiations though that is not expected, and he has the resources to fight this through a criminal trial. if he is convicted, he can also appeal. so this could be a long, drawn-out process. but in the immediate future, the biggest consequence is for the committee. without any consequence for steve bannon's blanket defiance of this committee, this investigation, don, would have been crippled. i've spoken to witnesses who have been subpoenaed in this case, and they've been watching to see what was going to happen with bannon. would there be any consequence? now that they've seen criminal charges, those com

first of all, i don't know how you get into steve bannon's mind. i don't know why one would think that you can carry executive privilege throughout your life. he did serve in the white house at one time. he was in the serving there when all of these incidents occurred and he's not serving there now. for him to exert executive privilege is beyond me. but i think that this indictment demonstrates that the department of justice is not going to act in the way his department of justice operated and he's going to have to answer to the committee for his conduct. and i hope that the others will see this and begin to comply with the committee's work. >> i want to read you something that bannon said on his friday podcast, because it relates so much to the work that you do, that you've dedicated yourself to and that is accessing elections and accessing voters to the polls. he said, quote, we're going to get to the bottom of november 3rd and we're going to decertify the electors. while congress is focused on the infrastructure bills, how are lawmakers pushing

this is an easy decision for steve bannon. his entire media personality is built around this image of fighter and resistor. this is very good for his brand and also easy for him to raise money to assist with this defense. i'm not so sure every other witness associated with the former administration can say the same thing. many folks will make the opposite assessment of steve bannon and that is that being indicted by a federal grand jury is not a good thing for your reputation. it's not a good thing for your career prospects. so i do think don, that folks are recalculating how they want to proceed now realizing that the committee is going to stand up and doj is going to back them up under the right circumstances. >> steve bannon probably as you said likes what is good for his brand, right? this is what he was saying the day before the insurrection. watch this. >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. just understand this. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. it's not going to happen like you think. it will be quite e

now that the justice department agreed to indict steve bannon, this threat of an indictment is now real. bannon obviously sees an environment as a marketing opportunity. he seems to be having the time of his life as a defendant. most people actually don't feel that way about being a criminal defendant. mark meadows lives more in the real world. the idea of being a criminal defendant is probably a lot less appealing to meadows than to bannon. >> i suspect you're totally right on that. gloria, the committee soon issuing more subpoenas. a member told me in the last hour they want information from people with personal knowledge of january 6th. but could lower profile witnesses reveal more information than the high-profile battles going on with meadows and bannon? >> they certainly could yield a lot of information, wolf. i talked to a source familiar with the committee's thinking, and they want people, not just the meadows and the bannons who communicated directly with the president, but they're talking to people who are coming in over the transom who were present for certain meetings but we