recently re-elected republican congressman steve chabot of ohio is chairman of the small businesses committee. he joins us to shed some light. so good to see you. >> thank you, j.j. great to be with you again. >> we love having you on the show. when you talk to small business owners over the past 11 years, the one thing that they say is the hardest for them almost over anything else is uncertainty. so many small business owners are feeling uncertain right now, and if we just look at the overtime rules, right, they were supposed to go in effect today where the overtime rules change. you would have to pay people overtime if they made more money than they used to. now they're not in effect anymore. lots of small businesses made changes to deal with that. now suddenly it's off the table, at least for now. what do you tell small business owners who don't know what's coming ahead? >> you're right. uncertainty is one of the things small businesses in particular face. and they don't like it. it's hard to plan for it, whether it's regulations or taxation or in this case, as you mentioned, the overtime