tonight by lawrence korbe, senior fellow at the center for american progress also with us tonight, steve clemmonsributor and editor at large at "the atlantic." good to have you with us tonight, gentleman. drone strikes, is this just part of the deal steve? is this just the way it's going to be? president obama did not specifically sign off on strikes. does this really bring us to maybe a larger problem at this point? what do you think? >> ed it's a complex knot. and i think it would be easy to say that you know, hitting the an al qaeda compound in this area is understandable on many levels, but the fact is that our drone strikes have killed many civilians, many -- the casualties have been far beyond the militants that we've been targeting, and the president himself, in a speech at the national defense university said, i want congress to have more oversight, i want to have guidelines that we follow that the process that even he had been following with john brennan for many years and had been targeting was one that really couldn't stand up to the light of day. so when something like this happens, i

i'm joined now by steve clemmons washington editor at large the atlantic and an msnbc contributor.the feds insist they were not an internal threat but i would imagine there has to be a pretty thin line between supporting isis overseas and launching your own attack here at home correct? >>. >> i couldn't say it any better than you did. people here increasingly seeing isis and its affiliates abroad being supported, it's a risk factor in the united states. to the degree that was a large somali population that they were watching a, one of the people arrested in san diego was a brother of one of the people there, they're watching these folks and to the degree that they set up conduits for transfer of money or identifying people who could join that does come back and hit u.s. interests. so it's very unnerving. >> you mentioned the somali community. we know that minneapolis is one of the largest concentrations of somalis in america. we also know that there have been a number of outreach programs launched locally on the federal level trying to reach out to the folks who lived there in minn