. >>> with me now, the founder of the investigative project, steve emerson. sis has americans worried. how justified are those fears? >> very justified. look, judge, the problem here is that it's not just a regional issue. isis definitely is a threat in the region of the middle east to the saudi arabia and united arab emirates and jordan. it's a threat to israel. but they are a threat to the united states. there are nearry 300 to 400 american volunteers with u.s. passports now fighting for isis. they can return to the united states any time they want. the fbi has been handcuffed in terms of investigating religious extremists in mosques as a result of guidelines put out by the attorney general earlier this year. and so therefore there is a strict -- there is a definite problem now in investigating those militants in the united states who are recruiting for isis or have returned from syria or iraq having fought for isis and ready to carry out freelance or directed terrorist attacks on behalf of isis against the united states. that's if first problem that we're f

joining me steve emerson and mohamed sadik is back with us.you ever get to answer the question that hamas, which has in their charter the obliteration of israel, i asked you twice now since you've been on the program, they have in their charter to obliterate israel. will tonight you now acknowledge they're a terror organization? >> i will not. >> have you read the charter yet? >> i bear witness to one good, allah. i want to offer condolences, again, to the sotloff family and to the family of foley. let them know that -- >> you've been on twice, i asked you to read their charter -- >> what i know about hamas, they're not a terrorist organization. >> what you know about hamas. but their charter calls for "the obliteration of israel and jews." >> i have nothing to do with their charter. i know that the democratic -- >> but you're not acknowledging a terror group for what they are. >> i'm not afraid. i won't identify anybody i do not believe -- >> if somebody wants to obliterate an entire country, a group of people, what part of that being terror

steve emerson, great to see you. thank you for joining us today. >> you're welcome. >>> fox news alert on two major searches under way at this hour. the first search for hannah graham. the university virginia student who's been missing for two weeks. the prime suspect in her kidnapping is now in police custody in charlottesville, virginia. this is video of jesse matthew extradited from galveston texas where he was found camping on a beach. he's been extradited to have a bond hearing in char lott individual court come october 2nd. investigators say he was the last person seen with graham. investigators are expanding the search area to more heavily wooded areas in neighboring counties. as the man hunt for state trooper killer eric frein continues this hour in rural northeastern pennsylvania, police investigating his background saying they have found evidence on his computer hard drive showing he had been planning this attack for a couple years. his computer also showing extensive searches on topics like how to avoid po

steve emerson, why is there reluctance of some in the muslim community to acknowledge radicalism?you know what, sean, there's not just a problem in the muslim community. it's a problem within various sectors in american society. under this administration the term radical islam is prohibited from being used. it's not used at all. in fact, prosecutors have had hard times using the word jihad in the indictments of islamic terrorists. so the fact is not only do we have it in the islamic community where imams like mr. saddiq should be directly involved in combatting extremism. that's the only way to stop the growing number and proliferation of young muslims who want to join isis -- >> but here's my question, steve. why is there -- i would argue there are too few people that are moderate muslims who don't like the hijacking by radical -- that don't have the courage to speak out. like when the catholic church had its problems, i'm a catholic, i spoke out and spoke out loudly. i would think that all muslims do not want these radicals representing their religion or hijacking their religion

steve emerson is an author and executive director of the investigative project on terrorism and gafar hussein is a director at a counterterrorism think tank in london. welcome. mr. hussein, let me begin with you. how close a call was this? >> from what i'm hearing, it was pretty close. the australian police intercepted a phone call which suggested that these individuals -- or one individual is a quite high-ranking member of isis, and he had been given instructions to now carry out this attack in response to -- as a tactical response from the isis point of view to the fact that the australians are now sending troops to the region to help in the international effort to defeat isis. we're starting to see a number of things isis doing now, all of which are aimed to kind of prevent or the international coalition which has been a real game changer in isis in iraq. >> mr. emerson, react to what mr. hussain just said, but also put in context the idea that the biggest terror threats may now come from within, not from without, and who are these people? are they nationals of australia or people

talking to former cia director james woolsey and steve emerson for their views and also take a closek at the latest in the fight against isis. as to air strikes, continuing against targets in syria and iraq, we'll look at the money trail as well that continues to keep those terrorists well equipped and armed. >>> the world health organization reports the numbers in the ebola virus continue to climb. we will bring you the very latest. >>> besilent or be suspended, espn commentator bill simmons after speaking his mind about the nfl commissioner. >> i think that dude is lying. put him up on lie detector test that guy would fail, and -- for all of these people pretending they didn't know is such [ bleep ] bull [ bleep ], it really is. such [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> espn taking criticism for benching this guy. should voicing your job? >> well, eric, you're asking a guy who's been fired by npr for voicing. i just said how i felt when i see people dressed in muslim garb getting on an airplane. i will say the use of the profanity is a little much. i understand espn has a partnership, a busines

terrorism and what steve emerson says. it would be hard to get other countries on board with the president's plan. >> there's a notion there's this coalition of arab states is ludicrous. they can't name them because they won't go on record and say they hurt the u.s. there's no reason in the world why the united states ant embarking on an aggressive immediate strategy to destroy isis within three to six months. if we have the ability to do so. if that were announced i can guarantee you they would have the confidence to allow themselves with the united states. >> the mystery virus hospitalizing children across our country and leaving them gasping for air has sprd to the northeast. it's in connecticut and new york. doctors are warning parents to lookout for citizens of coughing and wheezing especially if your children has asthma. the most effective way is to wash your hands. >> those at the international airport could be exposed to measles after an infected traveler traveled object the 6th. the virus spread through the air. t

. >> with me now the founder of the investigative project, steve emerson. welcome. a great night for you to be on. alton nolen's facebook page. you've seen it. what does it tell you about him and what his intentions are? >> his facebook page is replete with statements, pictures that emphatically reveal his allegiance to radical islam, his atread of the united states, his support of 9/11 attacks, his support of killing americans, his support of osama bin laden. it's a road map to his affiliation and support to radical islam. it's proof of the fact that he's a jihadist. >> so when you say that he has the markings of a jihadist. tell us why. >> let me add a couple of other things. not only does the facebook page prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt, but the fact that his computers that were seized by law enforcement show that the website he visited also revealed that he was looking at radical websites that were radical islamic websites going for the killing of americans. he was converted in jail to be a radical muslim. the first step that is done by jihadists to prove

i won't show it if that turns out, steve emerson, to be his website, my question is why isn't the fbi finding these things? why isn't law enforcement finding these things ahead of time? that would be a red alert, a siren ought to be going off looking for these sites, no? >> well, under your assumption, yes. but you know how many websites there are, how many facebook pages there are? there was another incident this past week where our research group found that isis had tweeted a website for -- or a site for a 1100-page terrorist manual which included the most incredibly technically advanced -- >> don't we have the technology that you put in a search that we'd have the ability to find certain key words that are on certain sites? there's got to be some technological advancement within our government that would be able to do that rather simply. >> yeah, but you know what? if you put in those words, you still need humans to look at it. this is where ed snowden's hysterical accusations went wrong. you can pick up all those words, but the fact is you pick up 10 million words, you still need

steve emerson, i think the vision is what we saw in mosul, which is convert or die. the desire for an islamic caliphate. who's right, me or president obama? that's a hard one. >> well, i'm on your show, so obviously you're right. but the bottom line is islamic supre supremacy has been for -- not for all muslims but the bottom line in the last century since the rise of the muslim brotherhood in which isis actually was created its roots go back a hundred years. we've seen the muslim brotherhood, we've seen hamas, hezbollah, al qaeda, now we see isis, they all want to rule the world. and the caliphate is the chief prize. >> sunni, shia, doesn't matter, destroy israel, destroy the west and advance this convert or die philosophy. >> there have been other brutal caliphates in islamic history. >> that's true. we can go back to the 600 a.d., right? >> we can go back to 614. we can go back to the -- but even al qaeda has not been as brutal. yet they have -- you know, look, it's all relative. al qaeda killed 3,000 people, you know, in 2001. the reality is this fwrup here knows

emers emerson, sotloff's roommate, was too distraught to talk on camera, but tweeted, devastated and crushed. steve was an amazing friend. heart is heavy for his family. while at ucf sotloff talked about wanting to go to the middle east, he eventually did freelance work for several publications including "time" magazine, foreign policy and the christian science monitor. he was on assignment last august when he was kidnapped. the family remains tight lipped despite the growing media presence outside their home here in pinecrest, florida. they did release a statement, though, saying in part, they are aware of the video and they are grieving privately. erin? >> alina, thank you very much. as alina said, we understand the family has said they are grieving privately. they also said they're awaiting confirmation that this is indeed the video of their son. as we have reported, the united states government has not yet formally confirmed that this was stephen sotloff in the video. >>> next "outfront," another american doctor infected with ebola. health officials warning the outbreak is going to get much wor

emerson lotzia and sotloff both attended the university of central florida. once shocked by his friend's cap live, lotzia is too distraught to talk on camera tweeted in part "devastated and crushed. stevet is heavy for his family." back on ucf's campus, students and faculty are horrified for his death. >> i really hoped there was a way to get him back. >> he wrote for the student newspaper so the journalists you can imagine, this is their campus community and feels very personal. >> reporter: while at ucf sotloff talked about wanting to go to the middle east. he eventually did freelance work for several publications, including "time" magazine," foreign policy" and the "christian science monitor." sotloff's family lives in south florida. they've only released a statement saying they are aware of the video and they are grieving privately. >> alina thank you very much. this touches on so many different heart strings, his family, his friends, you know, the media, because that's what this man was doing, doing a job that he believed in passionately. >> yes, his passion so much. >> the cowardice is pointed out. he's not even a combatant and it speaks to what that group is about. >>> investiga