friday and time to take your questions to one of our biggest speaker views, america's asking, steve forbesy and everything else and steve, let's go ahead and start with a question by thra*eubg harris has mentioned before our break. he wanted to know how involved you are with rick perry and the formulation of rick perry's tax plan. >> i have input on it. he had a couple of people work on it. i talked to him himself on it, and i think the outcome was pretty good. he got the rate down to 20 percent. i'll take that. and the generous exemption for adults and kids, so taxes don't go up for lower income people. that's critical to making it pass politically and economically. jenna: the last time we talked, it was just before you officially endorsed rick perry for president. now thaw officially did, i'm just wondering how you think things have gone over the last couple of weeks. are you disappointed with rick perry and his performance for example in some of the de stpwhaeuts. >> the famous debate incident, i think that's what people look for when something like that happens is how do you react to i

welcome to forbes on fox and we'll go in focus with steve forbes and 10 mis, rich and victoria and bill baldwin. >> what will it do? >> less jobs and more work rules and uncompetitive wages. compare detroit with nonunion auto workers in the south. they can't have free elections and they are trying it earlier with car check and that would mean you wouldn't have a free ballot and now they are rushing it. it is like the soviet union. >> rick, does steve have it right or wrong? >> i have to disagree with the boss yet again. i can't tell you it is going to create jobs. but it is not killing the jobs it will solve the problem and solve something that is a long-time coming. as it stands right now, only two-thirds of all desired elections ever get to that point. why? because employers spend tons of money litigating the issues and going in front of the nlrb and trying to stop the elections before they happen. this has to change. there is a true value with the unions and tying them up by lit gating is ridiculous. >> it is true corp erations spend a lot of money. but they have all of the political

this is the newspaper that endorsed steve forbes in 2000. steve forbes of "forbes." in new hampshire, the manchester "union leader" has not been looking out for the little guy, the populist candidates to endorse. this year, the same paper says mitt romney seems too 1%ey. they're going with newt gingrich. memo, everyone gets that mitt romney seems too 1%ey for the political climate in america right now arguably, but if you actually looked into newt gingrich, i mean, on paper, on paper it can seem daunting to look into newt gingrich. when you start looking into his financial empire, it can seem sort of complicated, but it's not. it's basically just this. 1425 kay street northwest in washington, d.c. 1425 kay street northwest is the home of gingrich communications. 1425 kay street northwest the home of gingrich groups, appears to be known now as the center for health transformation, a for-profit gingrich-related health care thing. 1425 kay street northwest the home of gingrich productions. 1425 kay street northwest also the home of gingrich holdings. 1425 kay street nor

. >>> we to want talk more about the economic impact of the payroll tax cuts so let's bring in steve forbes, chairman and editor and chief at forbes media. good to see you. >> good morning. >> did this absolutely need to get done? on the simplest level we're in the most important time of the year for retail, if americans think basically that they were going to get $1,000 less next year, i wonder what the impact would be. is this all a good thing? >> well, i think in items of what's going to happen this retail season, i think that, as they say, is already baked in, that americans -- the economy is doing better than people perceived. it's still very sluggish compared to what it should be. it's like a car on the highway. we've gone from 10 miles an hour to 40. we should be going 70. but, hey, it's better than before. so i think in the fourth quarter we will see, regardless of the tax debate, growth rate of about 3.5%, 4%. >> you know what the key in this debate is. i know you were rushing to get in the chair so you didn't hear the conversation with charles and ben, but the key to this conversa

steve forbes is the chairman and editor of chief of forbes media. he has endorsed rick per prip good to see you. good morning. >> good morning. >> i think you just heard, you know, reboot, recalibrate. i don't think there's anybody who wouldn't agree with this statement that rick perry has had some problems as of late. what would you tell him to do to reboot and recalibrate if there's an opening? >> i think he's doing it now coming out with this flat tax plan, which ask a positive one. he gave a very good energy speech a couple weeks ago. when you have substance you define your own narrative and people start looking beyond the mere super fishalitities to what you're going to pursue if you get the white house. so i think the process is already under way. >> right now so far at least before we heard from this woman a little later today, polls show herman cain holding on to support, even polls tan aftken this issue broke. do you think he can survive this? >> this is going to be one of the test in the campaign, credible candidate, at loose most of the t

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the other thing is he proved that with a flat tax idea, no matter how cookie the idea is when steve forbesame up with it, the republican party is very different today. what was a losing strategy could take you at least half way to the nomination. so herman cain himself may not be credible. what he says about the republican party is incredible. >> one of the women said she doesn't want to make public appearances but what they are now negotiating is the possibility of her releasing a statement. they want to negotiate that with the national restaurant association to either see if it fits within the confidentiality agreement or get a waiver from the agreement. it all now is up to the confidentiality agreements which herman cain seems to be relying on to get it through this. every reporter is asking him when they get close to him, will you waive the agreement? he won't say that he will. >> he's not willing to put all huz cards on the table. the other thing i notice here is if this comes actually as it seems to from the rick perry campaign, then it's not the high-tech lynching that republicans w

bush who became president and in 2000, union leader endorsed steve forbes and not george w.to this endorsement. but it does help newt gingrich get competitive in new hampshire. the question is, can he build on this endorsement with some real organization on the ground? right now, romney has all the organization up there. newt gingrich doesn't have much going. we'll see whether he can close the gap in a few weeks. >> you're offering the romney camp perspective. how about the obama team perspective. what do you think the reaction is in the white house in. >> i was in chicago last week talking to officials in the obama camp. and their view now is they're prepared to run against anybody. they're not ready to say that newt gingrich would necessarily be easier to beat than mitt romney. but they do have some experience with gingrich and they know, having watched his career, that he's a pretty undies plind politician. the chances of him blowing himself up are pretty good. whether it's in the primaries, which would make him lose to romney nor a general election. they're happy to the

go back earlier, steve forbes in 2000. patrick buchanan, pierre dupont in 1988. back to 1980, ronald reagan the last time that the newspaper got it right in new hampshire. what about where the latest polls are? look at this, a poll out last week this is still mitt romney's state. this is a suffolk university poll. and romney at over 40% right now in new hampshire among likely primary voters. gingrich starting to gain. he's at 15%. still pretty far back. six weeks to go until the new hampshire primary, fred. >> meantime, herman cain, we said many analysts said that the numbers would change. who is out front, who is at the bottom, all of that would change. so herman cain, he's going the other direction. he's going down now when he was enjoying, you know, riding high on the polls. >> he was. remember, he was basically at the bottom of the pack back over the summer. he just skyrocketed, right to the top. over the last couple of months. and now started to fade a little bit. why? herman cain was on candy crowley's state of the union and said i've been taken out of cont

i think he got the idea from steve forbes. i'm delighted governor perry adopted it. we'll debate my 15% rate versus his 20% but at least we're in the same zone having a good policy discussion. >> i have to say it, you're being the statesman or the gentleman here. let me ask you about the 15%. there's no way you would claim it to be revenue neutral. >> no, not even trying to be revenue neutral. what i'm trying to do -- why would you expect me to accept some washington insider standard that i think is nonsense? my primary goal is to create jobs. if we create enough jobs and 9% plus unemployment, if you get, and by the way if you count underemployment and people dropped out of the workforce, it is 16% or 18% or 19%. if you get back to where reagan was and back to where i was when i left the office as speaker, we were at 4.2% unemployment. when reagan left the office as president, he had cut the unemployment rate by more than half. we created 1,100,000 jobs in september of 1983, that's ten times the number of jobs obama created in october of this year. so -- >> ronald re

before that in 2000, they picked steve forbes who didn't win. they also backed pat buchanan twice and ronald reagan twice. so a candidate's political ideology is important, it is a very conservative editorial page and so they consider that as well as electability. >> rachel, looking at the numbers, cnn time opinion research poll taken late last month shows gingrich in fifth place with 5%. mitt romney is far out front with 40%. a suffolk university poll last week shows romney with 41% and gingrich tied with ron paul with 14%. so you have to wonder whether this endorsement from this newspaper, the only one in new hampshire, as you put it, will give him a real big bump in the polls. >> reporter: certainly this will help gingrich as he tries to build momentum in new hampshire. he's trying to set him elf up as the alternative to mitt romney in the state. romney now is the long time front runner in the state. it is notable he was not chosen to get this endorsement. he didn't get if last time either. we'll see how that shakes out for romney. for gingri

i mean, you know, i had pretty lecty conversations with steve forbes when it comes to economic issuesn the field and understand the politics, understand how these things work. when you look at... you know, i have had some great foreign policy conversations with liz cheney and john bolton, people who actually understand intmaitle where these countries are, why they think like they think, it is that type of what i consider to be very knowledgeable men and women that you want around you. there is not a person that has been born yet that knows everything that's going on, but you better have the ability to identify really good people. that's how i have run texas. for 10 years, i have had very, very wise -- they may not be the smartest ones. president obama has some really smart people around him. i just don't know how wise they. america is looking for wise right now. caller: all right. governor, good to see you. >> thank you for your time. >> sean: coming up, there is a new report that a third, anonymous woman claims she was sexual harassed by herman cain and his campaign is saying the sto

in 2000 they picked steve forbes, before that they had pierre dupont. sometimes they're on the right call, sometimes they're not. they had patrick buchananen, an msnbc contributor. they're on the fringe than the iowa comfort, the republican primary always is. it certainly doesn't hurt newt gingrich to have their endorsement. >> if you look at history, there was a great analysis of this by nate silver, it does give a significant boost in the polls, maybe you don't end up being the nominee, but it does give you that punch. let me may what president clinton told news max. >> he's articulate and he tries to think of a conservative version of an idea that will solve a legitimate problem. for example, last night, i watched the national security debate last night, and newt said two things that would make an independent voter say, well, i've got to consider that. >> clarence, he was talking about the immigration issue. do you think that's sort of a bit of proof that newt is already playing to a general election audience? could this be the real deal where the ot

after perot came steve forbes, donald trump, and now mitt romney.ieve a businessman may be the answer to our political problems. so, another perot could emerge, and mike bloomberg, the mayor of new york is one of those people also as someone that could come in as a third-party candidate, clean house and get our financial problems in order. >> thank you for joining me. i appreciate it. >>> in michigan today, all that's missing is the stroke of a pen and the state will have a long-awaited anti-bullying law on the book. you think the lawmakers who pushed hardest for this measure would be cheering for the governor's signature but many are not. joining me now from lansing to join me, michigan state senator glenn anderson. nice to have you here. you were among the biggest advocates for an anti-bullying bill and yet you tried to get this measure voted down. why would you do that? >> well, thomas, i appreciate you having me on today. this bill falls far short of what we expected to have as effective policy. something that would really make a difference for

i think he got the idea from steve forbes. i'm delighted governor perry adopted it. we'll debate my 15% rate versus his 20% but at least we're in the same zone having a good policy discussion. >> i have to say it, you're being the statesman or the gentleman here. let me ask you about the 15%. there's no way you would claim it to be revenue neutral. >> no, not even trying to be revenue neutral. what i'm trying to do -- why would you expect me to accept some washington insider standard that i think is nonsense? my primary goal is to create jobs. if we create enough jobs and 9% plus unemployment, if you get, and by the way if you count underemployment and people dropped out of the workforce, it is 16% or 18% or 19%. if you get back to where reagan was and back to where i was when i left the office as speaker, we were at 4.2% unemployment. when reagan left the office as president, he had cut the unemployment rate by more than half. we created 1,100,000 jobs in september of 1983, that's ten times the number of jobs obama created in october of this year. so -- >> ronald re

don't have the best track record in addition to picking reagan and john mccain, they also picked steve forbesbviously did not go all the way. pat buchanan did not go all the way. it gets you a lot of attention, but it doesn't get you across the finish line. but the timing here is crucial for newt gingrich. last hour we said this whole new next news sickle is going to be in connection to gingrich and his immigration policies an other policies conservatives don't like very much. this is the beginning of the conservative establishment basically saying we know we don't agree with you on everything but we're with you. it is a big deal for newt beginning grimp. geng grich. >> is it also a big for for mitt romney? >> yes. this endorsement is fas fahion natu. >> they say we would rather endorse somebody we don't always agree with than endorse somebody who tells us what they think we want to hear. that is talking about mitt romney. that is saying you have changed positions too much on us. we don't know who you are. we at least know who newt gingrich is. it is as much for newt gingrich as it is very sp

you mention dupont and steve forbes.eople who didn't make it, predecessor backed people who didn't stand a snowball chance in hell understanding what the country and the state would do rather than what they did. >> that was always interesting to me. the one that never fit in that group, i thought, was mccain, but was that you invoking the buckley rule four years ago at the end of the day you looked around and said, you know what, got to go with the most electable conservative? >> yeah, yeah. and for the time, i think gingrich is the guy for these times and i thought mccain was the guy for 2008. you remember, he's the one who successfully argued for the surge and the surge work and, ironically, that gave obama the opportunity to get in without discussing much on foreign policy and then the economy tanked, so, mccain was toast. it's all about timing. >> now, obviously, mitt romney yesterday on c-span you refer to him, he's sort of like a favorite son. he, obviously, spends a lot of time in new hampshire arguably, i think,

in 2000, we picked steve forbes. he did not go on to be president. it is merely a matter of union leader reporters talking to these folks. i have talked to him since 1976. we do not go along with the big shots either. we do not consider ourselves a big shot. we are staking want as arbiter of voice. -- we are stating one conservative voice. host: newt gingrich, the union leader writes, is not a perfect candidate. unattainablean ideal to the best candidate who is actually running. he is worthy of your support on january 10. our next call from the international line. it is matthew from wales in the u.k. you are on the air with the publisher of the union leader. caller: i just wanted bit of education. we have several different policies here in the u.k. there are 500 million americans, of which 400 million are potential votes. why do you only have two political parties? it is strange that for a large population, you don't have any alternatives. it seems that they would be outgunned somehow. can you help me please? host: how about a political lesson? guest

steve forbes. are some -- they did select right hand reagan who eventually would become president of the united states and last time around they did select john mccain who did back the party's nominee. >> gretchen: we know newt gingrich has been done well in the debates and there has been argument there are too many debate, but that's one of the reasons is because he does well. he has challenged president obama to a debate, except there is one little caveat. he says that he will come there just himself, but he's wondering whether or not president obama will also come with his teleprompter. >> steve: yeah. he made the comments over the weekend at a speech in florida down in naples and he said it would be a series of lincoln-douglas style debates and there was this excerpt from the newt speech who said, can you imagine him, the president, looking in the mirror, graduate from colombia, the greatest arrest particularity in the democratic book, how is he going to see he's afraid to be on the same podium

past it would rather pick a long shot if he had a true conservative ideology and why it endorsed steve forbeschanan in the '90s. gingrich is a long shot. it is inconceivable he could catch romney who is polling i think 18 points ahead in new hampshire and he has been for a while. >> what about nationally, as a national candidate? does he have any chance, jan, if it got this far of perhaps appealing to more voters than romney? >> reporter: across the country he really blitzed kind of a spark with voters. they have looked at these other candidates, like you said, and they have moved on. they saw rick perry stumble in the debates and herman cain hit with allegations of harassment and struggle on foreign policy. they have seen gingrich perform really well in the debates. also has the clock on his side. i mean, the iowa caucuses are just next month so he has less time to falter. maybe he could be the last man standing here but, i mean, his fight isn't over. his opponents will start hitting him really hard and keep your eye on rick perry and michele bachmann on that. >> when it comes to immigration

joined by steve forbes who is the chairman and editor and chief of forbes media and a longtime new yorkeru think of all this. steve? >> it should have happened a couple of months ago in september. it's one thing to do a protest, quite another to camp out and make it clear they were controlling the area. rudy guiliani was it should have been done months ago. they should protest the the federal reserve which is one of the biggest road blocks to an economic recovery. martha: the fha says they need man but that doesn't seem to be resonating at all with these folks, steve. >> it doesn't. they have the wrong targets. all their efforts are not going to get very far in getting this country moving again. martha: you saw the iowa numbers that came out, a four-way split between the candidates there, the top gop candidates there. what about your guy? what about rick perry and how he's doing, and what did you think about the blunder coming up with the three agencies he would cut. >> he did very well in the debate overt weekend in foreign policy. i think he's handled that incident very well. other cand

. >>> steven on twitter just tweeted that the manchester leader endorsed steve forbes in 2000.ou to, this is the point in the show where we play dress up. you get to ask a question. ezra, what would you ask of whom? >> senator pat toomey, i would like to know from a deficit reduction standpoint why raising $300 billion in taxes only if we cut $3.8 trillion in taxes counts as a tax increase as opposed to a tax cut, which is a congressional office budget. >> how would you answer that if you were pat toomey? keep it going? >> the question is current policy versus current law baselines. already we are in the weeds. the tax cuts have been extended now by president obama as well. it's hard to argue they are all going to snap up to where they used to be. it might be a good thing to get the deficit done. it's unlikely to happen. it's how things look compared to the extension of tax cuts. what's going to replace them. i think there's a good tax reform out there. i, pat toomey, but i didn't put in enough revenues. we have to get to where the boehner-obama discussions were. >> i'd be surp

on the other hand, remember that the union leader has endorsed pat buchanan twice, has endorsed steve forbesways pick the winner. >> he picked john mccain and that vaulted him four years ago. dorothy rabinowits wrote this about newt gingrich 3 weeks ago. quote, his greatest asset lies in his capacity to speak to americans as he has done with such potency in the republican debate. >> do you agree with that? >> i don't think anybody could have predicted how prcht the debates would be. they are the single biggest factor in the race. gingrich is week to week, the best debater on the stage. that's the biggest reason for his rise. as a matter of fact, it's been the reason for some people's falls. obviously the reason for rick perry's decline in the polls, for herman cain's decline in the polls. newt gingrich's performances in the debate have brought him nearly to the lead of this race. >> byron york, thanks very much for being with us. >> thank you, gregg. >> heather: president obama's proposed buffett rule would raise taxes on people making more than $1 million a year. but critics say that could