so i try to tell a few vignettes about what got people like bob reuben or john whitehead or steve friedmanr hank paulson interested in politics and why, you know, when they got the call -- i tell a great story about how steve friedman who was bob reuben's co-senior partner at goldman sachs and then was left alone by reuben when reuben went to washington, and, you know, eight years later, ironically, steve reuben got offered the same -- i mean, steve friedman got offered the same job in the white house that bob reuben had had in the national economic council. and how bush calls him up and insists he come do this job. and he tells bush, look, i've got physical ailments, i can't -- don't know that i can do this, that kind of pressure is not going to be good for me physically. and bush says, hey, steve, my father had a heart arrhythmia, president bush, the first president bush, he was in world war ii, you can come and -- with your heart arrhythmia and come work in the white house. what could he say? that's exactly what he did. so, you know, yes, a whole other book could be written and probably