steve gill is an attorney in the ceo about gil media, nashville, tennessee. also joining us is attorney and the executive director of the rainbow, push coalitions, peach, tree street project in atlanta, georgia. robert patillo. my thanks to both of you gentlemen, for being with us. you know, what i think this is coming down to. certainly, if not in the legal case, in the court of public opinion, whether the former president really had as alvin bragg called it a scheme, or whether he was just trying to get away from an embarrassing situation that he didn't want his wife to find out about steve, let's begin with you a or b. but well, 1st of all, i think a brag is right. what he says, this is an unusual situation. you made the point that he's talking about the case as a criminal defendant, but it's an unusual case that you have a prosecutor who ran campaign ads running for the job, claiming he would get a specific individual without knowing the facts without knowing any details without even having the basis to do so, it was a campaign promise and a political par