. >> steve goldsmith, connected with the use services. we have affronted program where we set up meetings between victims and offenders, youth offenders. very effective. evidence based, but i don't imagine we have to many people from the juvenile justice probation or law enforcement here. how do we educate them? that is really the folks that need rehabilitation, those front-line workers because they don't make referrals to programs like that. they have this idea that, in fact an operation department as a number of employees whose job is to go out and violate people. that is all they do, sending them back to prison. how do we change the system on the outside so as to reduce people going in to begin with? >> create dialogue. step one is to create dialogue between these two different groups and see that there is more commonality then there are, you know, the centrist. >> and that every county to miami many of the counties, particularly the bay area, they have councils where everyone is at the table, community-based organizations, the distric

. >> steve goldsmith, connected with the use services. we have affronted program where we set up meetings between victims and offenders, youth offenders. very effective. evidence based, but i don't imagine we have to many people from the juvenile justice probation or law enforcement here. how do we educate them? that is really the folks that need rehabilitation, those front-line workers because they don't make referrals to programs like that. they have this idea that, in fact an operation department as a number of employees whose job is to go out and violate people. that is all they do, sending them back to prison. how do we change the system on the outside so as to reduce people going in to begin with? >> create dialogue. step one is to create dialogue between these two different groups and see that there is more commonality then there are, you know, the centrist. >> and that every county to miami many of the counties, particularly the bay area, they have councils where everyone is at the table, community-based organizations, the distric

. >> steve goldsmith, unconnected with services, a funding program where we set up meetings between victims offenders, youth offenders. very effective. very evidence-based, but i don't imagine what to me people from the juvenile justice probation or law enforcement here. so how do we educate them? because that's really the folks that need rehabilitation, those front-line workers, because they don't make referrals to programs like that. they have this idea that impact probation department has a number of employees whose job it is to go out and violate people. that's all they do, sending it back to prison. so how do we change that system at the outset -- outside source to reduce people going in to begin with? >> create dialogue. i think is step one is to create dialogue between these two different groups and see that there's more commonalities than there are, you know, this interest. interest. >> not every county is like that but many of the counties particularly in the bay area have council were everybody is at the table, the committee-based organization, the district attorney, the sheriff,