so -- first question is for steve hadley. steve, during his presidency, president bush spoke often of his belief that the peoples of the arab world both desired and deserved democracy. i want to know, would you view the events of the arab spring as a vindication or perhaps a cautionary tale for some of the vision that president bush laid out which you were very involved in as well? >> well, i think the place we have to start is that the revolutions in the middle east are being made by the people of the middle east. this is their revolution. this is not made in america. this is not made by george bush. the one thing i think we can claim for president bush is that he, looking at 9/11, was willing to say, and articulate it clearly, publicly, that u.s. policy has been wrong for about 50 years. that it was premised on the notion that you could support tyrants and authoritarians in the middle east and get stability, and we thought we needed that stability over 50 years for oil and to keep out the soviets and all kinds of reasons, an

marc grossman will be speaking here and steve hadley, importantlier national security adviser to president bush will be moderating the event which will also feature rasheed and ambassador who is based at usip. so please join us for that event as well. today's event focuses on the regional afghanistan. every time we talk about how relative peace and stability can come to it, you will hear the term regional solution, and yet there is not much work done on what really regional architecture means, what it looks like. what to begin with are the interests, the positions and the strategies of countries that neighbor afghanistan and whether, most importantly, there are overlaps in their positions which can be harnessed and leveraged to bring together a regional solution. can the u.s. incentivize behavior? if the region doesn't come together there will be a destabilizing influence. we are fortunate to have a panel sitting here in front of you, three experts who have truly studied this issue for a long, long time and who will be speaking to us today. just very quickly in terms of f format, and i'll

ambassador marc grossman who is the special rep on afghanistan and pakistan will be speaking here and steve hadley, former national security adviser to president bush will be moderating the event which will also feature ahmaad rasheed and ambassador omah samed who is based at usip. please join us for that event, as well. today's event focuses on what is often touted as the regional solution to afghanistan. every time weep start talking afghanistan and how relative peace and stability can come to it, you'll hear the term regional solution, and yet, there is not much work done on what really regional architecture means, what it looks like. what to begin with are the interests, the positions and the strategies of countries that neighbor afghanistan? and whether, most importantly, there are overlaps in their positions which can be harnessed and leveraged to bring together a form of a regional solution. can the u.s. and other parties incentivize behavior on the part of these countries to make that happen because the conventional wisdom is that if the region doesn't come together by the time the transit

i will say a word of thanks to steve hadley. i have been special representative -- i appreciate it very much. question steve asked is to say we spend a very barge amount of time thinking about the security transition. security transition layout in 2010 or transition of geographies which has already taken place and more to come. the military activity, all these areas we have been working on. and a success at the end of 2014. i will talk about the other transitions. is important we not lose sight of the success at lisbon. i spent a couple weeks around europe supporting the afghan national security forces. staying focused on the lisbon transition. it is a very important part of explaining the story of how we are going to go forward in afghanistan to get to 2014 so security transition is important but steve is right. we ought to be spending more time thinking about the other transition in 2014. there are two transitions we ought to be considering. lisbon and the political transition called for by the constitution of afghanistan on e

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hadley. as a top advisor to president george w. bush for eight years, steveeft his mark on every major foreign policy issue the united states has confronted. he has continued to do so since leaving office through his involvement in a host of policy study groups and his extensive travels, including his own visit to pakistan of last october. importantly for us here at usip, he's a former member of the usip board and we continue to benefit from his support and his sage advice. so it is with great pleasure that i turn the microphone over to steve hadley. >> thank you very much. i want to thank the panelists for being with us this morning. and thank all of you. i think we should have a very interesting hour and a half on this most important question. i want to outline how we are going to try to proceed this morning. i'm going to begin by asking each panelist what may look like a bit of a softball question, but it's kind of a framing question so each of them can take three or four minutes in turn to sort of set out sort of a general approach to the problem. what we

hadley. as a top advisor to president george w. bush for eight years, steve has left his mark on every major foreign policy issue the united states has confronted. he has continued to do so since leaving office through his involvement in a host of policy study groups and his extensive travels, including his own visit to pakistan of last october. importantly for us here at usip, he's a former member of the usip board and we continue to benefit from his support and his sage advice. so it is with great pleasure that i turn the microphone over to steve hadley. >> thank you very much. i want to thank the panelists for being with us this morning. and thank all of you. i think we should have a very interesting hour and a half on this most important question. i want to outline how we are going to try to proceed this morning. i'm going to begin by asking each panelist what may look like a bit of a softball question, but it's kind of a framing question so each of them can take three or four minutes in turn to sort of set out sort of a general approach to the problem. w

hadley. as a top advisor to president george w. bush for eight years, steve has left his mark on every major foreign policy issue the united states has confronted. he has continued to do so since leaving office through his involvement in a host of policy study groups and his extensive travels, including his own visit to pakistan of last october. importantly for us here at usip, he's a former member of the usip board and we continue to benefit from his support and his sage advice. so it is with great pleasure that i turn the microphone over to steve hadley. >> thank you very much. i want to thank the panelists for being with us this morning. and thank all of you. i think we should have a very interesting hour and a half on this most important question. i want to outline how we are going to try to proceed this morning. i'm going to begin by asking each panelist what may look like a bit of a softball question, but it's kind of a framing question so each of them can take three or four minutes in turn to sort of set out sort of a general approach to the problem. w