steve hildebrand, you've worked on races for congress.2012 on facebook. so you're not a fan? >> it's disappointing, john. those 40 hours that we're suggesting they work in a week, they're fundraising 30 of those hours. they're raising anyone pacs, corporate interests. >> democrats and republicans. >> democrats and republicans. the only way we'll stop that cycle is to start over. dump them all. start over. >> democrat and republican. >> democrat and republican. get everybody out of d.c. who is so tied to this cycle of special interests fundraising and start over with a new group of people who refuse to take that pac money, that lobbyist money, let's start over. a clean slate and put people to work who are going to focus on solving america's problem instead of solving for the next election. >> delivered calmly but that's a throw the bums out message from the left. >> and it could happen. with wee had three swing elections in a row. if members of congress are not doing their jobs, you could argue, why should they be here? there's nothing for

steve hildebrand, he was the deputy campaign manager for the obama campaign 2008.ary, worked on a lot of campaigns over the years. mary, what do you make about all these ads now going viral? do they actually help these respective candidates? >> well, in the case of the herman cain ads, they're effective to conservatives because they go right at the ground zero that units conservatives, which is anti pc. the nanny state i'm smoking, is it always about color, the yellow flower. liberal race bidding. that had a very subtle and sophisticated message, but i think their good at this point in the campaign. all these guys still trying to distinguish themselves from each other and they aren't designed to get votes as much as to get a look. >> they do get a lot of attention, steve. did this smoking ad help herman cain or hurt his campaign? >> i think it hurts him, wolf. i wish it would help him, but i think it hurts him. these candidates are spending a lot of money producing these ads and if you're not spending that money to really tell voters in iowa, new hampshire, south c

steve hildebrand, thank you. erin burnett "outfront" about to erin burnett "outfront" about to take it away right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> we're on the front line with herman cain's main man. the guy you see smoking in the ad. cain is leading in the polls. can he win? and rick perry has a joke that we cannot resist sharing with you tonight. and the bottom line on the economy, the markets are way, way up. this is a landmark day. will it last? let's go "outfront." "outfront" tonight, whoa, whoa, whoa. the markets soared, the dow up 339 points. nasdaq and s&p up more than 3%. and there were two big reasons why. one, america defied skeptics with american consumers spending money. the u.s. economy grew 2.5% in the third quarter. twice as fast as the prior quarter. look at it compared to earlier this year. 2.5% isn't great overall. but it is a lot better than a lot of doomsayers expected. the other big news was europe. they made a deal to bail out greece. that deal also, not that great. but after