. >> steve huntsman, i'd like to thank the panel for the insight and ask a brief question which is are there any useful lessons we can draw from the south african experience? >> sanctions work. >> so does regime change. >> right. thank you, thank you, yes. >> i think -- let me -- short question, short answer. okay. >> and it looked so complicated 90 minutes ago. >> that's right. >> okay. let me ask you to than join me in thanking the panel for the presentation today. >>> today from the national press club, watch a discussion with john pistol, head of the transportation security administration on the future of aviation security. that will be live on c-span2 at 1:00 p.m. eastern. coming up on c-span3 at 3:00 p.m., an overview of the federal trade commission budget request for 2013. we'll hear from john liebowitz, chairman of the federal trade commission. >>> president obama has requested $51.6 billion for state department funding in 2013. secretary of state hillary clinton defended this request at a house foreign affairs question. she answered questions on iran, iraq, oil prices, pakista