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this is something that happens very, very seldom, but we're waiting to hear from judge steve jones on that matter. all right, there's been so much legal wrangling with 19 co defendants involved in this case. since this is all started, since the indictment came down like hannah, you're across all of it. you'll let us know when you get definitive answers on some of these key questions. thank you very much, mike. the still ahead on elza 0, a un report highlights the role that heat waves plain worsening air quality, and this is happening as african leaders make a new climate change declaration. stay with us. the hey there is still keeping tabs on store. and daniel, after i've done copious amounts of rain, for example, central grease, we saw about half a meter of rain in the span of a few hours. a storm system has left behind a legacy of still torrential downpours. and that part of the country dock of the blue and the yellow, the more intense the rain is strong system though is spinning around this central mediterranean. i put this a date for now on friday, this becomes a story for the tin
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district judge steve jones didn't buy it. writing in the ruling, his efforts fall short. let's bring us in -- on capitol hill. and katie feng, msnbc legal contributor and host of the katie phang show. she was a former florida state prosecutor into counties with an extensive felony trial experience. that makes her a good one to ask these questions to. i will go fast -- meadows has already appealed, and help us break down the judges decision. >> look, just or judge steve jones did exactly that. in hours of testimony, meadows trying to plead his case to have him move out of fulton county, where he likely thinks a more friendly jury pulled that of the mostly democratic jurors in fulton county. he failed to prove that the work that he was allegedly doing, that words that he was indicted, i'm trying to pressure state officials to overturn the election results in favor of the former president, including a call that he was on with brad raffensperger, the top election official in that state with his former boss. and he failed to prove that he did that, and according to his job des
district judge steve jones didn't buy it. writing in the ruling, his efforts fall short. let's bring us in -- on capitol hill. and katie feng, msnbc legal contributor and host of the katie phang show. she was a former florida state prosecutor into counties with an extensive felony trial experience. that makes her a good one to ask these questions to. i will go fast -- meadows has already appealed, and help us break down the judges decision. >> look, just or judge steve jones did exactly...
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steve jones moved against that. but now the judge has said that the proceedings within this case will proceed regardless of whether meadows appeals this case to the 11th district and then even to the supreme court. this is a very important point because meadows and suddenly donald trump was watching this very closely. wanted to basically close proceedings until what would eventually be a supreme court decision on whether the case should be moved. that could take months before such a decision was made. so the judge making very clear that he wants the proceedings to go ahead. that will start in october. the 23rd, which is the 1st 2 defendants. and then it will be decided within coming weeks out how many others are going to be tried. and at what time they tell in the island of len produce, it says it cannot cope with the number of migrants arriving. and it shows around $7000.00 people arrive there in 48 hours. authorities have begun transferring some asylum seekers to ease the situation. to meet your moving thinker has
steve jones moved against that. but now the judge has said that the proceedings within this case will proceed regardless of whether meadows appeals this case to the 11th district and then even to the supreme court. this is a very important point because meadows and suddenly donald trump was watching this very closely. wanted to basically close proceedings until what would eventually be a supreme court decision on whether the case should be moved. that could take months before such a decision...
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another judge and the fulton county court, steve jones moved against that. but now the judge has said that the proceedings within this case will proceed. regardless of whether meadow's appeals his case to the 11th district, and then even to the supreme court. this is a very important point because meadows and suddenly donald trump was watching this very closely. wanted to basically hold proceedings until what would eventually be a supreme court decision on whether the case should be moved. that could take months before such a decision was made. so the judge making very clear that he wants the proceedings to go ahead. that will start in october. the 23rd, which is the 1st 2 defendants. and then it will be decided within coming weeks out, how many others are going to be try and at what time as well, the kremlin has confirmed that russia's president's adamant fusion has accepted an invitation to visit young young and comes as a north korean the that controller and continues his visit to russia can do alone is now expected in 2 more cities in russia's far easter
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the charges against him or related to his official work and the trump administration well, judge steve jones rejected that and added this about meadows's testimony. meadows was unable to explain the limits of his authority other than his inability to stump for the president or work on behalf of the campaign. tonight, meadows filed a notice of appeal to the 11th circuit court. this all comes just hours after the unsealing of the special grand jury report that was in fact the basis for the georgia election case. last month, the a fani willis announced 19 people, including former president trump, had been indicted for racketeering. but, the special grand jury actually recommended last year that 39 people should be charged with crimes. remember, what the panels for women said back in february. >> it is not a short list. we saw 75 people. >> are these recognizable names, names that people would know? >> they are certainly names that he would recognize. >> among those recommended for indictment but not charged, senator lindsey graham, former senator david perdue, former senator kelly loeffler, and
the charges against him or related to his official work and the trump administration well, judge steve jones rejected that and added this about meadows's testimony. meadows was unable to explain the limits of his authority other than his inability to stump for the president or work on behalf of the campaign. tonight, meadows filed a notice of appeal to the 11th circuit court. this all comes just hours after the unsealing of the special grand jury report that was in fact the basis for the...
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>> reporter: you know, jake, there was some skepticism today from judge steve jones here in the federalt. he's already ruled against mark meadows bid to move his case out of state court into the federal system. and jeffrey clark, at times was a hearing where he was questioning jeffrey clark's attorney harry mcdougal talking about this draft letter that jeffrey clark wanted justice department officials to sign and send to the state of georgia. and prosecutors say that in that letter, there were falsehoods about the election. that jeffrey clark wanted to have the justice department say false things that he was unauthorized to say. that his superiors didn't want him to say and that trump was telling him to say and had no role to tell him to say. and the judge pushed back and said isn't that opinion. and so that also didn't go particularly great for clark, trump's attorneys in the courtroom did not seem to be too pleased with those arguments and how they went for clark's attorney. >> katelyn polantz, thank you so much. >>> let's bring in michael moore. good to see you. what do you make of j
>> reporter: you know, jake, there was some skepticism today from judge steve jones here in the federalt. he's already ruled against mark meadows bid to move his case out of state court into the federal system. and jeffrey clark, at times was a hearing where he was questioning jeffrey clark's attorney harry mcdougal talking about this draft letter that jeffrey clark wanted justice department officials to sign and send to the state of georgia. and prosecutors say that in that letter, there...
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they feel more comfortable with the judge that they have in georgia, the judge in federal court, steve jones, is an obama appointee. he's the one that rejected the effort by mark meadows to have his case removed to federal court. of course, erin, you know that this is still under appeal , an one of the things that's open to question is whether an appeals court, if the appeals court decides that they can remove mark meadows' case, whether the rest of the defendants get to move their cases as well. >> thank you very much, evan, and ryan goodman is out front now, as always, former special counsel at the defense department, and david k. johnson who has covered for 30 years, you were instrumental in our documentary, and now all of these things coming back up finally on a day in court. ryan, first, though, i do want to just start with the surprising news that just broke late that trump will not seek to move his election interference case. he had been widely expected to do so. were you surprised by this, and what do you think the reason is? >> i was a bit surprised by it, especially because he said
they feel more comfortable with the judge that they have in georgia, the judge in federal court, steve jones, is an obama appointee. he's the one that rejected the effort by mark meadows to have his case removed to federal court. of course, erin, you know that this is still under appeal , an one of the things that's open to question is whether an appeals court, if the appeals court decides that they can remove mark meadows' case, whether the rest of the defendants get to move their cases as...
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federal court made by trump's chief of staff mark meadows, that was flatly rejected on friday by steve jones. and the fake electors who are all claiming they acted as federal officials when they cosplayed as legitimate electors, they can very well face a similar outcome. now, as for the future of all the 19 defendants in that georgia rico case, fulton county d.a. fani willis has until 11:15 p.m. tonight to try to convince a judge she can both fairly and efficiently try all 19 defendants together on october 23rd. we have some breaking news on that front just ahead. on that front just ahead. finger sticks, helps lower a1c, and it's covered by medicare. before using the dexcom g7, i was really frustrated. all of that finger pricking and all that pain, my a1c was still stuck. before dexcom g7, i couldn't enjoy a single meal. i was always trying to outguess my glucose, and it was awful. before dexcom g7, my diabetes was out of control because i was tired, not having the energy to do the things that i wanted to do. (female announcer) dexcom g7 is a small, easy-to-use wearable that sends your gluco
federal court made by trump's chief of staff mark meadows, that was flatly rejected on friday by steve jones. and the fake electors who are all claiming they acted as federal officials when they cosplayed as legitimate electors, they can very well face a similar outcome. now, as for the future of all the 19 defendants in that georgia rico case, fulton county d.a. fani willis has until 11:15 p.m. tonight to try to convince a judge she can both fairly and efficiently try all 19 defendants...
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the judge steve jones on that case could make a decision any moment as to whether to move the chargesf meadows from state to federal court, and what are you looking for when that decision comes down? >> okay. a couple of things. first of all, as starting point, the issue here is whether or not the crimes that have been charged were essentially for an act under the color of his official duty. the bottom line is that the judge has already signaled that the rico, you know, the rico crime that has been charged, the full scope of that was not part of meadow's duties, but certain pieces of it, and what was called the overt act were part of the official duties of meadows or at least the judge hinted at that. there's really nothing like this in the past, and there has been no case quite like this one. it is going to be interesting to see what the judge does. what i expect for the judge to do is to decide with prosecutor here, because the prosecutors are the ones who write the indictment, and i think they wrote it in a way to make it sound like it is not official, and they have the upperhand h
the judge steve jones on that case could make a decision any moment as to whether to move the chargesf meadows from state to federal court, and what are you looking for when that decision comes down? >> okay. a couple of things. first of all, as starting point, the issue here is whether or not the crimes that have been charged were essentially for an act under the color of his official duty. the bottom line is that the judge has already signaled that the rico, you know, the rico crime...
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a nother judge in the fulton county court, steve jones moved against that. but now the judge has said that the proceedings within this case will proceed regardless of whether meadows appeals this case to the 11th district and then even to the supreme court. this is a very important point because meadows and certainly donald trump was watching this very closely. wanted to basically holst proceedings until what would eventually be a supreme court decision on whether the case should be moved. that could take months before such a decision was made. so the judge making very clear that he, once it proceedings to go ahead, that will start in october. the 23rd, which is the 1st 2 defendants. and then it will be decided within coming weeks out how many others are going to be tried. and at what time, brazil's top colt has handed down to its 1st sentence in the trial of the insurrection in the countries highest seats of power this yeah, a 51 year old as the arrow is sentence to 17 years in prison for his role in the attack on the presidential palace congress and deserv
a nother judge in the fulton county court, steve jones moved against that. but now the judge has said that the proceedings within this case will proceed regardless of whether meadows appeals this case to the 11th district and then even to the supreme court. this is a very important point because meadows and certainly donald trump was watching this very closely. wanted to basically holst proceedings until what would eventually be a supreme court decision on whether the case should be moved. that...
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judge steve jones saying in his ruling, quote, there is no federal jurisdiction over the case. the outcome of this case will before a fulton county judge, and a -- to ultimately decide. this is a major setback for donald trump's former chief of staff, who was hoping for a more favorable jury pool in federal court. it is also a signal to former president trump, and 17 other codefendants, that it will be an uphill battle to get their case removed at a state court should they choose to do so. meadows in the meantime as already filed his appeal, or notice of appeal, and another major piece of news out of fulton county. a newly unveiled report shows the special grand jury recommended indictments for more than three dozen people in the georgia election interference probe. that includes the names of 21 people who were not indicted in a separate criminal grand jury last month. notable mentions include senator lindsey graham of south carolina. floor mare -- david perdue and kelly loeffler. also michael flynn and boris epstein. joining me now is msnbc legal analyst, and one of the co-hos
judge steve jones saying in his ruling, quote, there is no federal jurisdiction over the case. the outcome of this case will before a fulton county judge, and a -- to ultimately decide. this is a major setback for donald trump's former chief of staff, who was hoping for a more favorable jury pool in federal court. it is also a signal to former president trump, and 17 other codefendants, that it will be an uphill battle to get their case removed at a state court should they choose to do so....
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i can tell you judge steve jones of the northern district of georgia, the federal judge who's hearing these motions, he's scheduled removal trials, sorry, hearings, by my count for at least three other defendants who have made removal motions. that suggests to me that he doesn't believe that automatically saying yes to mark meadows means everybody else follows along. saying no may also mean he doesn't think it's a no on everybody else. but he's scheduled hearings for jeff clark. >> thank you for saying jeff. >> and kathy lathem, they have hearings on september 18th or 20th. in all, there are five people who have asked for removal. mark meadows is only the first to have had his hearing. >> catherine, what do you expect for this 1:00 p.m. hearing tomorrow? >> well, it's interesting because mr. chesebro is doing i know her so why should i have to be tried with her. the reason they should be tried together is because they are charged with being with the same criminal enterprise. he's the fake elector scheme person who came up with that along with mr. eastman and miss powell is the voting
i can tell you judge steve jones of the northern district of georgia, the federal judge who's hearing these motions, he's scheduled removal trials, sorry, hearings, by my count for at least three other defendants who have made removal motions. that suggests to me that he doesn't believe that automatically saying yes to mark meadows means everybody else follows along. saying no may also mean he doesn't think it's a no on everybody else. but he's scheduled hearings for jeff clark. >> thank...
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judge steve jones rejected that notion in his ruling, writing, quote, the court finds that the color of the office of the white house chief of staff did not include working with or working for the trump campaign. meadows was required to come forward with competent proof of his factual contention that his actions involving -- his actions involving challenges to the outcome of the georgia's presidential election results were within his role as chief of staff. his efforts fall short. just two hours ago, mark meadows appealed the ruling to the 11th circuit. the judge stated that his ruling will not have any bearing on other defendants seeking removal of their cases. but it does suggest that the removal argument could be a hard sell for any defendant. including donald trump. quote, the constitution does not provide any basis for executive branch involvement with state election and post-election procedures. joining us now, neal katyal, former acting u.s. solicitor general and a professor at georgetown law. he is the host of the podcast courtside with neal katyal. neal, what did you think o
judge steve jones rejected that notion in his ruling, writing, quote, the court finds that the color of the office of the white house chief of staff did not include working with or working for the trump campaign. meadows was required to come forward with competent proof of his factual contention that his actions involving -- his actions involving challenges to the outcome of the georgia's presidential election results were within his role as chief of staff. his efforts fall short. just two...
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federal court, and that's now largely in the hands of northern district of georgia federal judge steve jones. he's got all of the briefs and the parties's arguments. but while he's considering that removal issue, state proceedings can go forward. in fact, there could even be a trial extremely unlikely that will happen here, but a trial could take place before he makes a decision because state court proceedings continue. and so the issue is some defendants have made speedy trial requests. legally in georgia, they now must have their trials commence by the next term of court after the one that's currently in session, that means a fall trial for that group. other defendants say, no, that's too fast. and there are due process reasons and constitutional reasons where they should be given more time to prepare, especially because we know fani willis has asked all of the defendants to provide two terabyte hard drives to receive their discovery. that means there's a lot of material, plenty of rationale for those folks to slow things down. so two groups for trial, perhaps more the judge will have to w
federal court, and that's now largely in the hands of northern district of georgia federal judge steve jones. he's got all of the briefs and the parties's arguments. but while he's considering that removal issue, state proceedings can go forward. in fact, there could even be a trial extremely unlikely that will happen here, but a trial could take place before he makes a decision because state court proceedings continue. and so the issue is some defendants have made speedy trial requests....
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federal judge, when you see non federal judges, you know, judge back with down in georgia, judge steve jones there, the 11th circuit. they are all moving with alacrity, it does make the layman, me being the layman, scratch my head and, say what is going on here? mark, when we talk about the decision that judge cannon made here. how much room is there for trump to appeal this? or to otherwise further slowdown the discovery process? >> so very different things, appeal this, not really. the fact is, this is a very routine productive order that has been put in place. there was nothing in this order that was unusual in anyway. it was a bad day for donald trump, because he didn't get what he had asked for. so in that sense, i guess one can say it was a victory for the prosecution. but it was standardized, most of those provisions i never would have thought about in one of my cases because i would've expected it to be that way. now, whether he can slow the process down by way of discovery, yes, and that is a concern with respect to the pace of this court. i agree with me wholeheartedly, i cannot de
federal judge, when you see non federal judges, you know, judge back with down in georgia, judge steve jones there, the 11th circuit. they are all moving with alacrity, it does make the layman, me being the layman, scratch my head and, say what is going on here? mark, when we talk about the decision that judge cannon made here. how much room is there for trump to appeal this? or to otherwise further slowdown the discovery process? >> so very different things, appeal this, not really. the...
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meadows did not succeed in this effort, in his ruling, judge steve jones wrote, the court concludes that meadows has not met even the quite low threshold for removal. that judge went on to essentially wave away meadows claims that he is simply carrying out his duties as chief of staff. take this example. during his testimony, again, last month, mr. meadows was asked about a text message he sent to a georgia elections official, in which he essentially offered to have the trump campaign pay for part of the georgia recount effort. meadows wrote in that text, is there a way to speed up fulton county's signature verification in order to have results before january 6th, if the trump campaign assists financially? now remember, mr. meadows was trying to claim here that he was acting as white house chief of staff, not as a member of the trump campaign, when he sent that. on the stand, mr. meadows explained that text was in keeping of me trying to ask a person who should know whether it's a financial resource issue, you know, manpower issue, or whatever. so i wasn't speaking on behalf of the campa
meadows did not succeed in this effort, in his ruling, judge steve jones wrote, the court concludes that meadows has not met even the quite low threshold for removal. that judge went on to essentially wave away meadows claims that he is simply carrying out his duties as chief of staff. take this example. during his testimony, again, last month, mr. meadows was asked about a text message he sent to a georgia elections official, in which he essentially offered to have the trump campaign pay for...
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this is the second time that judge steve jones is hearing a case like this, because mark meadows, trump'sf of staff, went through the same process and the outcome, meadows did not get his case moved to federal court because of a very specific job of what meadows was doing in his job. he was chief of staff at the white house, not chief of staff to the trump campaign. and that is specifically related to what's happening with the election here in georgia. there is going to be some help from both sides here. former attorney general ed neese wrote a memo that he just put in the docket over the weekend in support of jeffrey clark moving to federal court. the d.a.'s office for their part has julie hunt, head of the civil division, during the trump administration that, no, in fact, they did not have do deal with the election in that specific gob. >> gary, thank you very much for your reporting. and as gary pointed out, the judge rejected a similar motion by mark meadows. what would need to be different in clark's case for this to go his way? >> well, i think he's going to have to convince the jud
this is the second time that judge steve jones is hearing a case like this, because mark meadows, trump'sf of staff, went through the same process and the outcome, meadows did not get his case moved to federal court because of a very specific job of what meadows was doing in his job. he was chief of staff at the white house, not chief of staff to the trump campaign. and that is specifically related to what's happening with the election here in georgia. there is going to be some help from both...
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our reporter in the room telling that you say judge steve jones was visibly frustrated and annoyed with clark's argument. used the word disdain to describe the judge's reaction. and this led trump's lawyer to lean into clark's attorney and whisper those words "this is not good." and this hearing comes as another trump codefendant today filed a claim in the georgia court. kenneth chesebro's attorneys writing, the republican presidential electors were qualified and elected by the republican party. well, chesebro is the attorney accused of being the architect behind the fake elector scheme that. excuse just, quite simply, doesn't add up. it doesn't matter who the republican party wants as electors. when it comes to the electors are for a state, what matters was voters want. only the electors of the winning candidate based on popular support are supposed to show up the certified election, which are the electors. trump lost it by 11,779 votes in georgia. and the fake electors then went and signed a document that falsely. so, to quote trump's lawyer today, that is not good. and these are far
our reporter in the room telling that you say judge steve jones was visibly frustrated and annoyed with clark's argument. used the word disdain to describe the judge's reaction. and this led trump's lawyer to lean into clark's attorney and whisper those words "this is not good." and this hearing comes as another trump codefendant today filed a claim in the georgia court. kenneth chesebro's attorneys writing, the republican presidential electors were qualified and elected by the...
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federal job steve jones rejected the argument meadows and his attorneys made. he wrote in his ruling released less than two hours ago, that, quote, the court finds that the color of the office of the white house chief of staff does not include working with or working for the trump campaign. even if meadows took on tasks that mirror the duties that he carried out when acting in his official role as white house chief of staff, he has failed to demonstrate how the election really related activities that serves the basis for the charges in the indictment are relating to any of his official acts. this attempt by meadows, again, to remove the case into federal court, was also seen is a test case for the other 18 defendants in fani willis's sprawling r.i.c.o. indictment. again, the upside for them, i mean, it's going to be tried under georgia law, and the upside for them is there might be a more favorable jury pool. one of those defendants, that guy there, he is one of them, donald j trump, yesterday trump filed a notice that he may move or try to move his case to fed
federal job steve jones rejected the argument meadows and his attorneys made. he wrote in his ruling released less than two hours ago, that, quote, the court finds that the color of the office of the white house chief of staff does not include working with or working for the trump campaign. even if meadows took on tasks that mirror the duties that he carried out when acting in his official role as white house chief of staff, he has failed to demonstrate how the election really related...
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judge steve jones wrote, in parts, the court concludes that meadows has not shown that the actions that trigger the states prosecution related to his federal office. meadows has filed a notice of appeal to the 11th circuit. meanwhile, the charges careful to note this ruling would not impact the four other codefendants with pending removal bids. that former president trump has also notified the court he may file to remove his case as well. he has until the end of this month to decide. this week, we also got a little bit more insight into how the trial will proceed. judge scott mcafee expressed concern about the logistics of trying all codefendants together and he gave a statement to state to submit their argument for trying all 19 at once. starting october 23rd. that is when kenneth chesebro and sidney powell will be tried together, despite their lawyer's best efforts to sever the case. powell has moved to sever their trial from the other codefendants immediately and chesebro has filed to dismiss the r.i.c.o. charge against him. on one state, prosecutors set that trying the codefendants
judge steve jones wrote, in parts, the court concludes that meadows has not shown that the actions that trigger the states prosecution related to his federal office. meadows has filed a notice of appeal to the 11th circuit. meanwhile, the charges careful to note this ruling would not impact the four other codefendants with pending removal bids. that former president trump has also notified the court he may file to remove his case as well. he has until the end of this month to decide. this week,...
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district judge steve jones stated the allegations against meadows, which stem from election subversionf. writing quote, the evidence before the court overwhelmingly suggests that meadows was not acting in his scope of executive branch duties during most of the overt acts alleged, and quote. remember, that most of the alleged acts. because that will be important. meadows lawyers quickly filed a notice to appeal last night. for other codefendants of the georgia case have also sought to move their cases to federal court. trump has not done so yet. but his lawyers have indicated that they may try. but this does not bode well for others. i'm joined now by lisa reuben, -- an msnbc political analyst for rnc chair and host of the michael steele podcast. welcome to both of you my friends. while this is fundamentally a legal matter, i'm going to start with you michael. because for non lower lawyers like me, who read the indictment, and read the things that mark meadows is alleged to have done, i think this judge had a lot of patients and asking for submissions and testimony and comment about whe
district judge steve jones stated the allegations against meadows, which stem from election subversionf. writing quote, the evidence before the court overwhelmingly suggests that meadows was not acting in his scope of executive branch duties during most of the overt acts alleged, and quote. remember, that most of the alleged acts. because that will be important. meadows lawyers quickly filed a notice to appeal last night. for other codefendants of the georgia case have also sought to move their...
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pretrial motions, et cetera, not to mention the fact that he's awaiting a ruling from federal judge steve jones in terms of whether or not the removal defendants specifically mark meadows is going to actually go to federal court, and that dove tails with one of the biggest questions that was asked of all counsel, specifically, the state indicating we're ready to go to trial with all 19 defendants, your honor, if you're inclined to sever just chesebro and powell, it's the same amount of time, four months. it's the same number of witnesses, 150. why? because they said quote, evidence against one is evidence against all. the judge retorted, what about jury selection, what about pretrial motions, what about the 19 defense counsels participating in the due process for each of their individual clients. as of right now as we stand outside the fulton county courthouse, kenneth chesebro, despite his efforts to separate from sidney powell will be tried on october 23rd. the remaining question is will judge mcafee order the remaining 17 defendants to be tried with those two. >> how does that work, katie? h
pretrial motions, et cetera, not to mention the fact that he's awaiting a ruling from federal judge steve jones in terms of whether or not the removal defendants specifically mark meadows is going to actually go to federal court, and that dove tails with one of the biggest questions that was asked of all counsel, specifically, the state indicating we're ready to go to trial with all 19 defendants, your honor, if you're inclined to sever just chesebro and powell, it's the same amount of time,...
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. >> so on that, federal judge steve jones he could be ruling anytime now on the request from mark meadowshave his case moved. the judge's latest question and obviously the responses are in from the da and meadows' legal team, the latest question was specifically on if the court found that any one action described in the racketeering case, if the court found that it had to do with meadows' conduct by meadows in the course of doing his job, a federal position, does that mean that the whole says should then be moved to federal court. the da says obviously no. meadows' team says obviously yes. what do you think of this? >> the judge's question was very insightful and shows the kind of careful consideration analysis he is giving out of fairness to meadows' former position. honestly, kate, had a lot of legal analysts scratching their heads trying to dig out what the right answer should be. i think the da has the better argument here because it's not the actions that are being charged individually as crimes, it's what they all add up to. so it's the charges that he's facing. also in an indictmen
. >> so on that, federal judge steve jones he could be ruling anytime now on the request from mark meadowshave his case moved. the judge's latest question and obviously the responses are in from the da and meadows' legal team, the latest question was specifically on if the court found that any one action described in the racketeering case, if the court found that it had to do with meadows' conduct by meadows in the course of doing his job, a federal position, does that mean that the whole...
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forthcoming issue of -- supremacy clause immunity is one of the best approach for district judge steve jones. this is a provocative position, in part because there's so much anxiety about the perceived disadvantages to the prosecution if the case is removed and quote. i really am very interested in this. i've always wondered, if he moved to federal court, there's still a trial, there's still a case about the underlying things that he's proposed. tell me why you thought it might be an interesting proposition to do that. >> look, i want to clarify that the reason that we saw that it might be the right approach is because of this kind of policy really that maybe federal officials and the scope of their duties, which is what is being raised here in mark meadows so federal defense. he's raised the question of supremacy clause immunity, and that requires the judge to decide what's in the scope of a federal official duties. and the scope of the presidency. our argument was that maybe that is a question of a federal judge that should decide, rather than a state judge. that's going to be great. howev
forthcoming issue of -- supremacy clause immunity is one of the best approach for district judge steve jones. this is a provocative position, in part because there's so much anxiety about the perceived disadvantages to the prosecution if the case is removed and quote. i really am very interested in this. i've always wondered, if he moved to federal court, there's still a trial, there's still a case about the underlying things that he's proposed. tell me why you thought it might be an...
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. -- for federal drive steve jones in atlanta.e court. this suggests that they should be sent back to state court. it's clear at this point that meadows is doing the work of the campaign not the presidency. and he's not entitled to remove his case to federal court. >> joyce fads, as always, it's a pleasure to see you. thank you. more on the jar jar rico case at the top of the hour including what to expect at wednesdays arraignment. up next, i'll be joined by artemis langford a trans woman who faced a lawsuit trying to keep her out of a college sorority. how she fought back and how she won. >> i'm ayman homemade -- nine eastern on ayman, at this week trump took a page out of the authoritarian playbook vowing to lock up his political opponents if he wins in 2024. and our roadmap to do it is already in the works. authoritarianism expert sarah kenzy or will be are joined by charles coleman and jennifer horn. that's tonight, nine eastern right here on msnbc. rit ghhere on msnbc. custyour car insurance... so you only pay for what you ne
. -- for federal drive steve jones in atlanta.e court. this suggests that they should be sent back to state court. it's clear at this point that meadows is doing the work of the campaign not the presidency. and he's not entitled to remove his case to federal court. >> joyce fads, as always, it's a pleasure to see you. thank you. more on the jar jar rico case at the top of the hour including what to expect at wednesdays arraignment. up next, i'll be joined by artemis langford a trans woman...
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on friday, steve jones issue -- mark meadows would have to face trial in fulton county state court afterts to remove the charges to federal court. the judge saying, quote, meadows cannot have acted in his role is a federal officer with respect to any efforts to influence, interfere with, disrupt, oversee, or change state elections. those activities are expressly delegated to the states. meadows has since filed a peel, but the really just bad news for any codefendant federal official who is hoping to avoid d.a., fani willis. including former president donald trump. speaking of avoiding d.a. fani willis's prosecution, a grand jury report was unveiled. it reveals a wide array of trump allies who were not indicted despite recommendations from the special grand jurors. the sprawling list included top republican names like senator lindsey graham, former senator david perdue and kelly loeffler, trump's former national security adviser, michael flynn, interim quarterback lawyer, for us epstein. joining me now, legal analyst for the host of the justice meadows podcast, glenn, let's start with tha
on friday, steve jones issue -- mark meadows would have to face trial in fulton county state court afterts to remove the charges to federal court. the judge saying, quote, meadows cannot have acted in his role is a federal officer with respect to any efforts to influence, interfere with, disrupt, oversee, or change state elections. those activities are expressly delegated to the states. meadows has since filed a peel, but the really just bad news for any codefendant federal official who is...
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district judge, steve, jones denied his attempt to move the case to federal court. saying his alleged involvement in pressuring state officials to overturn the 2020 election result was not part of meadows work as a government official. jones writing meadows efforts to prove he was acting in his formal capacity as a white house employee and not on behalf of the trump campaign, quote, falls short. meadows lawyers hope to have the court heard in federal court where they can invoke special immunity protections. the judges decision for now is not impacting other defendants who have filed similar actions. that includes former president, donald trump. who, along with his 18 codefendants, pled not guilty. his lawyer said that he too may seek removal of his prosecution. with a final decision to be made by the end of the month. in the meantime, mr. trump's firing back. after the release of a special grand jury report on friday, showing the panel originally recommended prosecutors filed charges against 39 people in the georgia election interference case. trump, writing that th
district judge, steve, jones denied his attempt to move the case to federal court. saying his alleged involvement in pressuring state officials to overturn the 2020 election result was not part of meadows work as a government official. jones writing meadows efforts to prove he was acting in his formal capacity as a white house employee and not on behalf of the trump campaign, quote, falls short. meadows lawyers hope to have the court heard in federal court where they can invoke special immunity...
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district judge steve jones rejected the results which were not part of the work as a government official. jones writing meadows needs to prove he was acting as a white house employee and not on the trump campaign falls short. meadows lawyers hope to have the case heard in federal court. the judge's decision for now is not impacting other defendants who filed similar actions. including former president donald trump who along with his 18-co-defendants pled not guilty. he may seek removal of his prosecution with the final decision to be made by the end of the month. in the meantime, mr. trump is firing back after the release of the special grand jury regard on friday with the panel showing prosecutors filing charges against 39 people in the georgia election interference case. trump writing the fulton county district attorney, quote, wanted to indict anything who happened to be breathing at the time. among those named, three senators. including lindsey graham who made calls to investigate claims of voter fraud in november of 2020. >> why is a senator from south carolina calling the secretary
district judge steve jones rejected the results which were not part of the work as a government official. jones writing meadows needs to prove he was acting as a white house employee and not on the trump campaign falls short. meadows lawyers hope to have the case heard in federal court. the judge's decision for now is not impacting other defendants who filed similar actions. including former president donald trump who along with his 18-co-defendants pled not guilty. he may seek removal of his...
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evening, meadows and district attorney fani willis filed responses to a request from federal judge steve jones on the issue of removal. in her brief, d.a. fani willis nails mark meadows for falsely claiming he didn't have any role in the fake elector's scheme. after insisting that he did not play any role in the coordination of slates of fake electors throughout several states, the defendant was forced to acknowledge under cross-examination that he had given direction to a campaign official in this regard. what's worse for meadows is that his contradiction, the one that fani willis highlights to the judge, came during questioning with his own lawyers. with meadows being forced to admit that he got involved because he didn't want to get yelled at by donald trump. really. here's how the transcript goes down. meadows attorney. quote. why did you care whether the electors were coordinated? meadows. so about this time, maybe on this given day, it was mentioned to me that there was litigation going on that you had to have a provisional or conditional elector. should a court or should a legislature r
evening, meadows and district attorney fani willis filed responses to a request from federal judge steve jones on the issue of removal. in her brief, d.a. fani willis nails mark meadows for falsely claiming he didn't have any role in the fake elector's scheme. after insisting that he did not play any role in the coordination of slates of fake electors throughout several states, the defendant was forced to acknowledge under cross-examination that he had given direction to a campaign official in...
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district judge steve jones declined to move meadows' case to federal court. meadows has appealed. as we said the swamp of alligators waiting to bite meadows head off, trump telling nbc news this about meadows, quote, well, i hope he's loyal to me. that hope-warning comes as, quote, trump has been warned by the federal judge in the case also stemming from his efforts to stay in office brought against him by the special counsel jack smith, to avoid saying anything that might affect the testimony of witnesses. his comment about meadows could attract new interest. it should come as no surprise that ex-president would want to keep meadows close. few people have a better fwraps into every aspect of the coup plot than the former chief of staff. here's cassidy hutchinson. >> leaning against the doorway saying, interesting conversation with rudy, mark. sounds like we're going to go to the capitol. he didn't look up from his phone and said something to the effect of, there's a lot going on, cas. but i don't know. things might get real, real bad be on january 6th. >> i remember pat saying so
district judge steve jones declined to move meadows' case to federal court. meadows has appealed. as we said the swamp of alligators waiting to bite meadows head off, trump telling nbc news this about meadows, quote, well, i hope he's loyal to me. that hope-warning comes as, quote, trump has been warned by the federal judge in the case also stemming from his efforts to stay in office brought against him by the special counsel jack smith, to avoid saying anything that might affect the testimony...
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chief of staff and now codefendant, mark meadows, has filed a notice of appeal to federal judge steve see jones's ruling on friday that the georgia criminal case against donald trump's, mark meadows, cannot be moved to federal court because the conduct mark meadows is accused of was beyond the quote, outer limits of mark meadows federal job as white house chief of staff. the judge wrote, meadows failed to provide sufficient evidence that these actions related to any legitimate purpose of the executive branch. mark meadows is now desperately afraid that the federal court ruling could mean that mark meadows could be spending the christmas season in prison. tonight, mark meadows filed emergency motion, asking the 11th circuit court of appeals to state judge jones's ruling to, quote, prevent irreparable loss to meadows writes. this follows an earlier attempt by mark meadows today to stay the case through a motion filed in federal district court to pause the judge's order banning the appeals process and that motion. mike meadows lawyers argue that georgia state judge, scott mcafee, has not ruled yet o
chief of staff and now codefendant, mark meadows, has filed a notice of appeal to federal judge steve see jones's ruling on friday that the georgia criminal case against donald trump's, mark meadows, cannot be moved to federal court because the conduct mark meadows is accused of was beyond the quote, outer limits of mark meadows federal job as white house chief of staff. the judge wrote, meadows failed to provide sufficient evidence that these actions related to any legitimate purpose of the...
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at 9:30 a.m., federal judge steve c. joneshis trial to federal court. at 12, noon, defendant kenneth chesebro who is one of the speedy trial defendants scheduled for trial in five weeks filed a motion to quash some counts of the indictment against him. at 6:45 pm, defendant mark meadows filed his appeal brief to the 11th circuit court of appeals asking the court to reverse judge jones decision, refusing to move mark meadows trial to federal court. jeffrey clark did not show up for the hearing about moving his case to federal court. the defendant was not required to show up. jeffrey clark's criminal defense lawyer, harry mcdougal, tried to in effect testify for him. the lawyer said, quote, the prosecutors say he was acting outside of his lane. the president put it in his lane. back with us our andrew weissmann and joyce vance. and joining our conversation, gwen keith fleming, a former district attorney in dekalb county, georgia, neighboring fulton county. gwen, that line that the criminal defense lawyer offered for jeffrey clar
at 9:30 a.m., federal judge steve c. joneshis trial to federal court. at 12, noon, defendant kenneth chesebro who is one of the speedy trial defendants scheduled for trial in five weeks filed a motion to quash some counts of the indictment against him. at 6:45 pm, defendant mark meadows filed his appeal brief to the 11th circuit court of appeals asking the court to reverse judge jones decision, refusing to move mark meadows trial to federal court. jeffrey clark did not show up for the hearing...
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11th circuit court of appeals is rushing now to consider mark meadows appeal of federal judge steve see jones's decision refusing to allow mark meadows to move his trial to federal court. the 11th circuit federal court of appeals gave district attorney fani willis i deadline of noon tomorrow to file a reply to mark meadows appeal, which includes our request but the progress of his case in the state court be paused. while the federal appeals court is considering his appeal. but the speed with which the federal appeals court is responding could make a pause completely unnecessary. the federal appeals court is also asking the district attorney and mark meadows lawyers to address a very simple question. about the federal law on moving a case to federal court. a question that has not come up before. the appeals court is asking the lawyers to answer this question. does that statute permit former federal officers to remove state actions to federal court, or does it permit only current federal officers to remove? in a filing with federal district court judge jones, who denied mark meadows motion to mov
11th circuit court of appeals is rushing now to consider mark meadows appeal of federal judge steve see jones's decision refusing to allow mark meadows to move his trial to federal court. the 11th circuit federal court of appeals gave district attorney fani willis i deadline of noon tomorrow to file a reply to mark meadows appeal, which includes our request but the progress of his case in the state court be paused. while the federal appeals court is considering his appeal. but the speed with...
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and then the judges and lit against got really busy. 10:20 a.m., federal judge steve see jones denies mark meadows request for an emergency stay. 11:29 am, david schaffer waves the right to a speedy trial. 11:43 am, jenna ellis way is the right to a speedy trial. 11:45 am, district attorney willis filed a reply to the 11th circuit court of appeals opposing an emergency stay from mark meadows. 12:18 pm, sean still waits the right to a speedy trial. 1:15 pm, steven leeway is the right to a speedy trial. two pm, harrison fortway is the right to a speech. out to 26 pm, robert truly leaves the right to a speedy trial. 2:40 pm, the 11th circuit court of appeals grants mark meadows an expedited appeal schedule. for 23 pm, sidney powell filed a motion to dismiss the indictment. for 36 pm, scott all waived the right to a speedy trial. four 50 pm, district attorney willis filed a brief answering the 11th circuit question about removal of a case applying to former government officials. five pm, mark meadows team files a brief answering the 11th circuit's question about removal applying to formal
and then the judges and lit against got really busy. 10:20 a.m., federal judge steve see jones denies mark meadows request for an emergency stay. 11:29 am, david schaffer waves the right to a speedy trial. 11:43 am, jenna ellis way is the right to a speedy trial. 11:45 am, district attorney willis filed a reply to the 11th circuit court of appeals opposing an emergency stay from mark meadows. 12:18 pm, sean still waits the right to a speedy trial. 1:15 pm, steven leeway is the right to a speedy...
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district judge, steve see jones said, state prosecutors, quote, put forth evidence that had various points at the time of the alleged conspiracy, what else worked with the trump campaign which he admitted was outside of the rule of white house chief of staff. meadows says he plans to appeal but the decision is also a major setback for the ex president himself. who was hoping to jump on the federal court bandwagon. on friday, the judge overseeing the racketeering case, he may seek to have the prosecution to federal court. if the cases, moved trump would have the opportunity to argue that the charges should be dismissed because his actions fell under his duties as president. we're gonna learn more about that possible request in the coming weeks, trump has within 20 days of his arraignment waiver which he submitted on august 21st to file the motion. and another fulton county news, former trump lawyer kevin chesbrough, one of 19 defendants who -- to dismiss the r.i.c.o. charges against him. the motion follows a wednesday court reading that -- extra mppoa lawyer, sydney powell's mission, for se
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. >> steve: today lawrence jones is live in bedford, new hamp hampshire.re clapping for him because it's been a busy day. >> you are looking at the beautiful people here in bedford, new hampshire. who won last night's debate? >> i don't think there was an actual winner. i liked what desantis had to say, ramaswamy. i didn't like the bickering. i changed the channel when it was happening. to be determined, i guess. >> absolutely. who won last night? >> trump won. he is my guy. >> who won for you? >> trump won. >> why? >> because he has been there and proven himself and he has changed this economy, he changed the united states, and we need him back to change it back to the better. [applause] >> a lot of people agree with that. who won? >> i don't think anyone won last night. i think vivek was the only one that pointed out they were all on the same page but they kept taking cheap shots at each other. >> you didn't like that. >> it was silly. tim scott and nikki haley and then she going after vivek every time he opens his mouth she feels dumber. that was a chea
. >> steve: today lawrence jones is live in bedford, new hamp hampshire.re clapping for him because it's been a busy day. >> you are looking at the beautiful people here in bedford, new hampshire. who won last night's debate? >> i don't think there was an actual winner. i liked what desantis had to say, ramaswamy. i didn't like the bickering. i changed the channel when it was happening. to be determined, i guess. >> absolutely. who won last night? >> trump won. he...
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. >> steve: go to lawrence jones in big sky country, in bozeman, montana at open rank, a place that openedrence: hello to dana and stuart. let's go talk to folks. we want reaction from folks about the big debate and what do they expect. wra do you want to hear from the candidate on the debate stage? >> border, education, inflation, policy. >> lawrence: policy whachl about you, sir? >> like to see someone strong come up. last debate, no one really emerged as someone who looks like they could win the income election. >> lawrence: what would you like to see in the next debate? >> same, talk about issues and policy and like to see more from desantis, i really like desantis, but i -- >> lawrence: want to hear more. >> absolutely. >> lawrence: sir, we were talking and you said there was someone missing you want to see him. >> i would like to see the former president in these debates. [cheering] >> lawrence: everybody agrees with you. >> i think anybody on the stage can beat joe biden, robust debate is healthy for our party and helps american public understand what our ideas are and former presid
. >> steve: go to lawrence jones in big sky country, in bozeman, montana at open rank, a place that openedrence: hello to dana and stuart. let's go talk to folks. we want reaction from folks about the big debate and what do they expect. wra do you want to hear from the candidate on the debate stage? >> border, education, inflation, policy. >> lawrence: policy whachl about you, sir? >> like to see someone strong come up. last debate, no one really emerged as someone who...
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and it's really exciting because it is with so many 40 niner legends, steve young, ronnie lott, harris barton, brant jonesnd dwight hicks. so it's going to be a fun, modern conversation by me. you know, i'm really going to let them banter and tell us some great stories. give us some insights of you know, maybe those tidbits we don't quite get from sideline interviews lose post game. so it should be really fun, i'm sure. >> i mean, you'll be able to dive in, right? what makes them tick or their path to success and things that motivated them by the way, we wanted to run some figure skating video of you just because we always love seeing that look. you i don't know if everybody knows this, but this excites you personally because you're actually quite a big 40 niners fan, right? >> big fan. i mean, my family had 40 niners season tickets since i could remember. i mean, we were there and the candlestick park days and you know, obviously still cheering them on. um, to this day and age. so you know that dynasty and under the bill walsh era was , you know so much fun and so inspiring to watch. and so it'll it'll b
and it's really exciting because it is with so many 40 niner legends, steve young, ronnie lott, harris barton, brant jonesnd dwight hicks. so it's going to be a fun, modern conversation by me. you know, i'm really going to let them banter and tell us some great stories. give us some insights of you know, maybe those tidbits we don't quite get from sideline interviews lose post game. so it should be really fun, i'm sure. >> i mean, you'll be able to dive in, right? what makes them tick or...
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. >> it was tom jones, elizabeth taylor, steve mcqueen and frank sinatra.to skin him alive and make purses out of him and sell it on hollywood boulevard. >> virginia graham's testimony made the front page. one of many headlines. in a trial that lasted some seven months. >> the jury hearing the charges against charles manson and three girl members of his so-called family, brought in its verdict this afternoon. all were found guilty of murder in the first degree. >> and manson several members of the family were sentenced to death for the tate and labianca murders. a career making victory for prosecutor bugliosi who was emphatic that the sentence was richly deserved. >> in view of the incredible brutality of the savage, nightmarish murders, the death penalty was unquestionably the proper verdict in this case. >> then a little over a year later, it all changed. >> the california supreme court ruled today, that the death penalty is unconstitutional. >> there would be no gas chamber for manson or any of his convicted family members. >> do you believe that there s
. >> it was tom jones, elizabeth taylor, steve mcqueen and frank sinatra.to skin him alive and make purses out of him and sell it on hollywood boulevard. >> virginia graham's testimony made the front page. one of many headlines. in a trial that lasted some seven months. >> the jury hearing the charges against charles manson and three girl members of his so-called family, brought in its verdict this afternoon. all were found guilty of murder in the first degree. >> and...
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lawrence jones has joined the curvey couch he is part of of the "fox & friends" family. >> steve: welcome> lawrence: thank you for having me and thank you for giving me the opportunity when i did my first national tv hit. open arms then and i know you guy have been so supportive already. i'm going to learn so much from all of y'all. >> steve: this morning i woke up a little early i was excited because i took a week off last week to wrap up summer. i'm back from summer vacation. and this is like the first day of school. >> lawrence: i feel that wait a minute. >> steve: we have a new classmate. >> lawrence: i couldn't sleep last night. i went to bed early because i couldn't get used to mornings. >> brian: that works after have you been sleeping normal for a while you stare at the ceiling. lawrence it was great. >> ainsley: so many people writing me and texting me whether we made the announcement they are thrilled. >> lawrence: i feel like i'm already a part of the family. the boss made it official with paperwork. but we're going to have a lot of fun. >> brian: governor dan patrick had a hug
lawrence jones has joined the curvey couch he is part of of the "fox & friends" family. >> steve: welcome> lawrence: thank you for having me and thank you for giving me the opportunity when i did my first national tv hit. open arms then and i know you guy have been so supportive already. i'm going to learn so much from all of y'all. >> steve: this morning i woke up a little early i was excited because i took a week off last week to wrap up summer. i'm back from...