emily: so what is next for steve jurvetson? steve: i think you will find me learning.f our companies is working on to reengineer pigs. we want to harvest organs for humans by changing the immune system of a pig to be like a human, so we can take their heart, kidney, lung, and solve the transplant problem. i think the field of biology and the field of information technology, we will grow technologies. we will evolve technologies. we will build things that feel like brains, less like computers. that is how we push engineering beyond its current limit, which is, humans will design things they can understand. if you ask the question, one day, will we have something that is smarter than humans, like dramatically smarter than humans? the answer has to to be yes. it cannot be no. emily: already smarter than me? steve: no, no, no. i mean, literally smarter than humans in every way, like, you have a conversation and gives you better answers than i can. and what have you. that will inevitably happen. if you just give it a billion years of normal evolution. to argue that nothing