has already reacted by saying it's willing to provide security for trade in the region we asked steve kagan a professor of economics at kingston university whether the conflict could escalate . this particular incident of trump trying to control the oil process i think is really the beginning of the chaos of having a madman in control of a complex system so i think all bets are on if you try to control the oil cross important down at the same time is going to push stock markets up and boost the economy all in one time it's like watching somebody trying to juggle thirty seven plates at once when they only now do it off one there's every possibility that he will enforce a blockade which iran will have to respond to. yes i think conflict is quite feasible because oil prices are going to rise anyway given the pressure of demand with a recovering global economy process will rise what regardless of what around and trump will then respond to the ring crews and process by blaming a ram we're not seeing rational behavior here we're not seeing logical thought being applied so i think it's just going

steve, and happy early fourth of july for america. earlier some guy called up wondering about if a supreme court justice could recuse themselves. the answer is yes and i believe it was sotomayor or kagan who recused themselves and the -- in the aca debate because one of them had written some articles or wrote something for president obama on the affordable care act so when it went to courts, they recused themselves. i remember reading that in the paper. host: thank you. guest 2: it is up to the individual justice whether or not to recuse himself or herself and the caller is right to point that out and for future new justice will have a dilemma may be a vote of conscious whether or not to recuse himself or herself. host: what role does the federalist society play in the -- selection process? guest 1: i think they are clearly a vote -- group that has the president's ear when it comes to legal theory. the president has never been a legal beagle himself and from the first weeks of his presidency, he has made it clear he sort of is outsourcing that particular side of things -- maybe not outsourcing, but taking it it very seriously, groups like the federal society and heritage foundation an

steve, and happy early fourth of july for america. earlier some guy called up wondering about if a supreme court justice could recuse themselves. the answer is yes and i believe it was sotomayor or kaganho recused themselves and the -- in the aca debate because one of them had written some articles or wrote something for president obama on the affordable care act so when it went to courts, they recused themselves. i remember reading that in the paper. host: thank you. guest 2: it is up to the individual justice whether or not to recuse himself or herself and the caller is right to point that out and for future new justice will have a dilemma may be a vote of conscious whether or not to recuse himself or herself. host: what role does the federalist society play in the -- selection process? guest 1: i think they are clearly a vote -- group that has the president's ear when it comes to legal theory. the president has never been a legal beagle himself and from the first weeks of his presidency, he has made it clear he sort of is outsourcing that particular side of things -- maybe not outsourcing, but taking it it very seriously, groups like the federal society and heritage foundation and