let's get steve kardian in on that front. steve, i would think -- well, good question. if this was all part of a plan, the way it's laying out, if the mom is selling little shaniya for sex and mario could be the deliveryman. actually he could be facing murder charges at the end of the day. >> he could also face murder charges. i don't think there's going to be any affirmative defense he had permission to take that child to another jurisdiction, and presumably have that child put into the sex traffic trade. >> let's get michelle sigona in. do we know anything more, michelle, about what happened as we try and piece things together ourselves? are authorities saying anything about who did what and when? >> what's interesting is that we were supposed to see more charges come out today, mike. but as you know, investigators are delaying that for some reason. it could be that they're waiting for the autopsy results to come back. it could be that they're trying to figure out the jurisdiction issues, like you mentioned. so there's a series of things i think with their time line a

steve kardian, former criminal investigator and director of defend university. criminalologist casey jordan, noted criminal defense attorney michael cardoza. great to have you, michael. and investigative journalist michelle segona. michelle, what is the very latest? >> the very latest in this investigation is there has been one victim who is identified. her name is tanya carmichael. she went missing november 10th, 2008 from the area. at this point, since her husband, one victim identified, investigators released just a couple hours ago is they have five reference samples from family members who have come forward so they don't have enough reference samples to match up with some of the other dna from some of the other bodies. so they need that at this time so they're calling out to the public that if you do have a family member that's missing in that area, to come forward, talk to detectives to see if you are a good match so they can collect that particular dna sample. as you mentioned, anthony sowell was arraigned today and he did -- he does face five counts of a