well one of the things that steve katz did for you know going to extreme measure to prove his point or just to get response well you could paint it that way as well is encourage people to just kind of start to fight back so if your kind of on the receiving end of harassing phone calls people threatening to take your car from your driveway and you can't drive your son to work you know but there are we there are ways to fight back you know a lot of businesses small businesses when they go into business part of their business plan if it doesn't work out they can file for bankruptcy a lot of people you know over the last you know hundreds of years have come to see their debt as a moral obligation something that you absolutely if you don't pay are a bad person and so steve katz in the beginning you know this was some five years ago i started by just starting a website to teach people ways to not feel that way just one more i'd like to ask you i mean these are you that you were talk. about i presume that a lot of ordinary americans are one when people choose bags they kind of have to look at

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