steve kessler,. bill:hower. they're very reclusive from the photos. not high-profile guys on the outside. they stuck with him. what happens to these people? >> based on what we know so far they will be fine. this is largely the end of it i expect in the criminal zone. now we may see something else but i think basically this settles the criminal matter for them. melissa: fred, what do you think about that? obviously goes a lot further than that because it is not just about' voiding prosecution. where do your careers go from here? do you have another job? should have gotten out before all this happened like some other folks did? there was a whole group of traders that left in early september to join millennium management out the door before things got ugly. they're already settled somewhere else. >> first of all, you have to ask yourself why they were there in the first place. if you read the government's indictment looks like the trading on inside information was the way it worked. you have to ask yourself and you're working there and understand what i