to watch the rest of this program visit booktv.org, search for steve ketttmann and the title of his book "now what"? at the top of the page. >>> it is a pleasure to have the chance to talk with you about what is a fascinating book exploring what i think you call the invisible hand of our time. but when i was reading it, it almost seemed more like the background music of our daily lives and that is this challenge of what you label high conflict. for the reflector sort of natural conflict but the type of conflict that resolves evolves into a true us versus them. i want to spend a little bit of time talking with you today about that and dive a little bit into some of the markers and investigative work that you did to bring this book and concept forward. but i thought i would start by asking you to talk a little bit about what got you interested in this particular topic. in some ways but i found fascinating about reading it is that what we are living through is in so many stories in our daily life right now but never stopped to think about these stories unfold. >> thank you. to the aspen ins

to watch the rest of this program visit booktv.org, search for steve ketttmann and the title of his bk

to watch the rest of this program visit booktv.org, search for steve ketttmann and the title of his bookat"? at the top of the page. >>> it is a pleasure to have the chance to talk with you about what is a

to watch the rest of this program visit booktv.org, search for steve ketttmann and the title of his bookat"? at the top of the page. >>> it is a pleasure to have the chance to talk with you about what is a fascinating book exploring what i think you call the invisible hand of our time. but when i was reading it, it almost seemed more like the background music of our daily lives and that is this challenge of what you