his morning began with pheasant hunting with local congressman steve king. and casey hunt asked him about those rumors that he's in iowa with presidential aspirations. >> in 2011, governor perry did this with the congressman when he was running for president. are you here for that? >> that's a very dangerous comparison on a lot of fronts, not the least of which is governor perry is a lot better shot than i am.

newt gingrich era, and brings in the wave of republicans in the house in the 1990s, something that steve kingwould like to see here in washington not just in the house but the senate as well. one issue he's outspoken on is immigration. even though his district relies on undocumented laborers king said anyone illegally in the country should be thrown out. and he tweets using the hashtag #no amnesty. he would like to throw out the healthcare law and said it's drowning down priorities of the republican party. a week and a half ago when the house took a vote put forth by speaker boehner that would delay the healthcare law by a year. republicans only voted for it, including steve king. he said it didn't go far enough. he said concerns about the economic fallout are overblown. >> i don't think the credit of the united states is going to be collapsed. i think all this talk about a default has been a lot of false demagoguery. when we stop serv servicing thet that would be a default, we need cool heads and get to a solution. the president needs to come to the table. harry reid needs to come to the tab

steve king voted no tonight representative king good to see you here. after all has been said and done what was accomplished by the tea party caucus and those who voted no tonight? >> well, you know, it's sometime look on the bright side. that is what i'm responding to here. bright side of this. i think we've identified 20, 30, maybe more strong conservatives here in the house of representatives that are have now gelled into a team. it's probably bigger than that when you look at others maybe 70 or 80678 we hadn't been in their place before we had dinners and talked and related in this way before. so i think that will pay dividends over the long run. i watched as conservative senators have made their mark also. may in the be the best tonight but they have a national presence. and that is the bright side of this. i think our conference is more unified. >> republican party? republican party seems divided. >> i think really republican party, republican conference here in the house yeser we're divided on the vote but we gel together as a team. it's not pers

ted cruz is over on the steve king end of the party.ite history. it's awfully curious to me that we don't often talk about the bush years if you're in republican company. it's as if he was never president and if dick cheney was never vice president. we skip our way back to ronald reagan. but if you were to focus on those years and some of the real abuses of that administration, that's a conversation that they don't really want to have. i've got great respect, i have to say, for dick cheney and this new book about his progression along heart disease and all of these issues he has had. but i've got a fair amount of disrespect for how he has tried to recast the narrative around the bush years. you know, it's going to be awfully interesting in the coming days. >> yeah. now, ryan, this weekend's pheasant hunt in iowa reminded us of a hunting trip in 2006 when the great dick cheney shot a man in the face. have we got a picture of his victim? yes, there he is. texas attorney harry whittington whose face was riddled with bird shot. let's see ho

. >> let me play you something that steve king of iowa, a republican said. talking about the possibility of servicing the debt past this deadline. >> i don't think the credit of the united states is going to be collapsed. i think that all this talk about a default has been a lot of demagoguery, a lot of false demagoguery. >> is it technically possible to keep up with the debts? can you just not pay the interest rate on the debts while this is worked out. >> i have to tell you, anyone that thinks that the united states government not paying its bills is anything less than default hasn't thought about it very clearly. let me ask you a question. what happens if we're not able to pay social security? what happens if we can't pay disability and veterans payments on time. in each of these cases, it means fap liz, businesses, institution that's are important won't be getting what they're relying on. >> coming the 18th you won't be able to pay social security or medicare or all of these things? >> i'm telling that you the 1 h we one out of our ability to borrow. we

steve king later that day also introduced a repeal bill. we've been fighting ever since. this is consequential, because it is life and death for the american people, and for the american economy. t's worth fighting over. but this fight that we're in right now is far bigger than even the obamacare fight, far bigger, it's far bigger than the national bankruptcy that is impending upon our nation right now, that is putting our children's future at risk. it's bigger than the debt. it's bigger than the spending. because i said what is at risk in all of this is whether we will be the police line state or whether we will be a constitutional republic. it is that grave and that consequential, because an election was had. the results were what we all wanted to see, but an election was had. we have a democrat president. we have a democrat-controlled senate. but we have a republican-controlled house. by virtue of the election of the american people, they said we will have a divided government and a divided government we have. and we will not silence the voice of the american people in

these came from representative steve king.e the markets. saying that a default is a date on the calendar and that the rhetoric is what's concerning right now. >> if you builds a reputation for 237 years like the united states has for being the greatness of soundness, we're the reserve currency of the world. it's not the president causing the problem. simply an act -- get rid of the debt ceiling would be the best thing. enact a long-term debt ceiling with a big number and then get back to the other thing. >> how worried should we be about this thing we quote here? >> you certainly have to worry if there's 535 seats, that's for sure. but i personally think a majority will do the right thing before very long. if they don't, i think they're out of their minds. i think they'll do the right thing. but i don't think steve king will. >> i want to talk about the arguments that we're hearing it from some on the right saying that if this country's goes ahead and appeases the interest on the bonds, that nothing is going to happen. >> you

i know that that's what ted cruz is doing tomorrow with steve king. so again, you know the wing of the party that he's trying to appeal to. anyway, casey, stay warm. it's october in iowa. >> reporter: it's chilly here. >>> gaggle, robert costa, national editor for "the washington review," and cnbc who just returned from iowa. and democratic pollster margie o'meara. hello, all. mr. costa, i'm going to start with you since you just came from iowa. moderating this republican senate bee date whendebate whic get to in a few minutes. the ted cruz freight train just moves through iowa. and i have to say, i can't tell you the number -- and i know you hear the same thing -- the number of republicans off the record throwing up their hands going, did this guy learn nothing from the shutdown? >> you see a lot of republicans frustrated. when i was at drake university in des moines, almost every single candidate on that stage running for u.s. senate in the republican primary citing ted cruz. >> in a positive way. >> in a positive way, as the model. and that is what

congressman steve king, republican of iowa. congressman, it's great to see you.or joining me this morning. as jim acosta was laying out the potential, the threat of what will happen if the nation hits the debt ceiling, what are you concerned about? are you concerned about the potential economic crisis that could be caused if we pass this deadline on thursday? because we are in the 11th hour now. >> i'm not worried about this thing they term default. we are going to service our debt. we'll pay the interest first and roll the principal over. it takes 8% of our revenue stream on average to pay the interest on our debt. i am concerned about all the rhetoric around this, about the weeks and months building up to this point and the utilization of that term default. i'm scared it will scare the markets, i'm concerned that the president's remarks will scare the markets. i don't know what happens when we get to tomorrow, midnight tomorrow, as to whether there will be a dramatic reaction or not. >> what do you make of when the credit ratings companies, fitch is threatening

he was joined yesterday by a fellow republican, steve king. king hosted past gop presidential hopefuls rick santorum and rick perry for similar hunting outings in the first in the nation voting state. >>> obama care's broke insurance exchange website causing major frustration, but today, bobby jindal said the website is the least of the problems associated with new health care prm. >> i think they'll eventually fix the website, but this is the easy part. the real critical issue is when it comes time to schedule your grandmother's cancer surgery, what is going to happen then? this is symptomatic of a bigger problem. is this administration the most incomitant or most liberal in recent history? to quote hillary clinton, what difference does it make? this is an incompetent rollout, but it shows government shouldn't run health care. >> joining me, chris wallace. i was talking to a member of congress yesterday. they have been trying to get her to testify since august in advance of the launch. and she wouldn't do it. and finally will this week, and th

a protester heckled republican congressman steve king tuesday. democrats and republicans alike are pushing their rhetoric and strategy. these moments were captured between mitch mcconnell and rand paul. >> i didn't see an end. we are willing to compromise. we are willing to compromise. i think it is awful for say that over and over again. >> i do, too. >> i think if they say we wanted to fund it and we are willing to compromise -- >> on the late show with david letterman brian williams said the country is in a very, very dark time. >> they have a point to make. they don't like how the place is being governed. it is a heck of a lot easier to do it from their set of seats in the house. it is a heck of a lot tougher when you bottle things up and we are where we are. day three, complete paralysis. when i called the u.s. capitol after we had a shooting in washington i couldn't get anybody. the government workers had been furloughed. >>> an early winter storm hits the rocky mountains. in montana over ten inches of snow have fallen. temperatures are in

commentsote about the of sting -- steve king of iowa. what did you hear? >> there is no predicting. he says iowa is known for having candidates frame out. in them was originated last caucus cycle where we saw so many candidates rise and fall. he says that anyone who steps into the spotlight as ted cruz's doing, you have to ask whether they have staying power. hear interesting to someone like steve king, who is aligned with ted cruz say that he might flameout. >> are there any future dates for senator ted cruz in iowa? >> not yet. he will speak tonight. he will hunt some pheasant with revisited of king tomorrow. and he's also speaking at a fundraiser for representative king, so it is a two-day visit for him. >> jennifer jacobs, covering all it takes for the des moines register. you can reach her at the des moines register.com and also follow her on twitter. thanks for the update. we will give thanks here in a minute and then settle in and get ready for a great night. thanks. >> c-span live tonight from iowa, the state republican party reagan dinner here in des moines. introductions s

you had speaker gingrich on talking about steve king saying we're not going to get up for this fight again. i think that in general, i would expect this sort of internal republican politics to play themselves out maybe in primary campaigns but maybe not so much in a push for a shut down in washington. >> ben ferguson, you're shaking your head in furry, as usual, why? >> i mean, there is two things here that make me laugh. one, congressman weiner's comments the republicans don't know what they are for. anthony, i know you've been on vacation but are you kidding me? it about defunding obama care. that's what they are in favor of. that the what the tea party got elected to do. surely, out of the whole government shutdown, you and others understand exactly what it is that the tea party and conservatives were in favor of. and the second issue here was this, to imply somehow this had no positive at all for at least moving the idea that obama care is not working forward, i think would be naive. people are not talking about it, and i would say to the mitch mcconnells and the moderates out th

his morning began with pheasant hunting with local congressman steve king. and casey hunt asked him about those rumors that he's in iowa with presidential aspirations. >> in 2011, governor perry did this with the congressman when he was running for president. are you here for that? >> that's a very dangerous comparison on a lot of fronts, not the least of which is governor perry is a lot better shot than i am. i'm going to avoid making that comparison on every front. >> ted cruz set to deliver the keynote address this hour in lamars, iowa, where casey hunt joins us live now. casey, how is he being received out there so far? >> reporter: hey, craig. so far he's being received well. he actually did go pheasant hunting this morning with congressman steve king who's now hosting this lunch. i actually went with him for several hours. we were traipsing through the brush. cruz flew his own shotgun with him here from texas on united airlines. he checked it in his luggage. he spent a lot of time just sort of talking as they walked through the brush with many of these

you had speaker gingrich on talking about steve king saying we're not going to get up for this fightin. i think that in general, i would expect this sort of internal republican politics to play themselves out maybe in primary campaigns but maybe not so much in a push for a shut down in washington. >> ben ferguson, you're shaking your head in furry, as usual, why? >> i mean, there is two things here that make me laugh. one, congressman weiner's comments the republicans don't know what they are for. anthony, i know you've been on vacation but are you kidding me? it about defunding obama care. that's what they are in favor of. that the what the tea party got elected to do. surely, out of the whole government shutdown, you and others understand exactly what it is that the tea party and conservatives were in favor of. and the second issue here was this, to imply somehow this had no positive at all for at least moving the idea that obama care is not working forward, i think would be naive. people are not talking about it, and i would say to the mitch mcconnells and the moderates out there

. >> so you have people like steve king of iowa, one of the die-hards against any kind of agreement kept his entire staff. but you talk about no bell prize-winning scientists furloughed? >> yes. i believe there are five nobel prize-winning scientists who work for the government and have been furloughed. there's one man who is a physicist who says even if you wane nobel prize you're not considered essential and a man who invented the mars curiosity rover, he has been furloughed and 95% of the environmental protection agency staff has been furloughed and cleanup at like 500 toxic super fund sites have stopped yet every member of steve king's staff, they are essential. >> so the gym remaness open. head start was not funded except for a private foundation gave $10 million. what about day care for congressmembers, meaning their children of course. >> that's a good question. i know for federal agencies a lot of these day cares are being shut down which had many people worried. if they were not furloughed they are continuing to go to work but many private day cares, too, are suffering as well,

a protesters heckled steve king at the world war ii memorial on thursday. democrats and republicans alike are pushing their rhetoric and strategy. nbc affiliate wpsd captured these moments between kentucky republican senators mitch o'connell and rand paul. >> i didn't see an end. we are willing to compromise. we are willing to compromise. i don't think they have poll tested we won't negotiate. i think it's awful for them to say that over and over again. >> i do, too. >> i think if they say we wanted to fund it and we are willing to compromise -- i know we don't want to be here but we're going to win this. >> on the late show with david letterman, nbc's brian williams said the country is in a very, very dark time. >> they have a point to make. they don't like how the place is being governed. it is a heck of a lot easier to do this from their set of seats in the house. it is a heck of a lot tougher when you bottle things up and we are where we are. day three, complete paralysis. when i called the u.s. capitol this afternoon after we had had a shooting in wash

steve king of iowa is a headliner in the government shutdown and debt ceiling. he told chris that talk of the default if the country doesn't raise the debt ceiling is wrong. thank you for coming. >> thank you very having me. >> a clean funding bill, short-term debt limit increase, is that something you would at all support? >> at this point i don't think so. i would look at it and read it through and see what we have if we're making progress with any length of time that one might extend the debt ceiling. i'm not one that said i'll never vote to raise the debt ceiling but it should be comparable. the problem we have is a risk of and i've been warning against it for a week conflating the issues for this partial shutdown, needing a c.r. to get the government going again compared to the debt ceiling when those two things, if they come together, we won't be able to define the difference between the two because already they are conflating the style. i want to separate them and resolve the issue with the c.r. and i don't think there is an emergency on the debt ceiling.

a protester heckled congressman steve king at a world war ii memorial tuesday. republicans and democrats are pushing their strategy. wtsb captured these moments between mitch mcconnell and rand paul. >> i just didn't see an end. i go over and over again. we're willing to compromise and negotiate. i think it's awful for them to say that over and over again. >> i think if we say we wanted to defund it and now we are willing to compromise. i know we don't want to be here, we are going to win this, i think. >> on "the late show" with david letterman, brian williams said we are in a very dark time. >> they have a point to make. they don't like how it's being governed. it's easier to do it from their set of seats in the house. it's a heck of a lot tougher when you have bottled things up and you are where we are. day three, complete paralysis. when i called the u.s. capital of a shooting in washington, i couldn't get anybody. the government workers had been furloughed. >> the latest in sports from betty. good friday morning. >> happy friday to you, mara. >> let's talk

ted cruz is heading to iowa to go pheasant hunting with steve king.k with the congressman before the 2012 caucuses. it seems that on the path to the white house, every politician aims to hit the mark. >> i'm a lifetime member of the nra. >> i'm not a big game hunter. i've always been a rodent and rabbit hunter. small varmints, if you will. >> i'm a catholic deer hunter. i am happy to be clinging to my guns and my religion. >> it's the must-have photo op. actually on both sides of the aisle from sarah palin to john kerry. and even the president himself. then, of course, there's shooter. dick cheney's escapades are well documented. >> vice president dick cheney has accidentally shot and injured a friend with whom he was hunting. >> bird shot fired from the vice president's weapon apparently wounded a fellow hunter. [ cheers ] >> thank you, jesus. >> why is it? it just seems that everybody who runs for president on both sides of the aisle has to prove they just love to hunt. well, now it's senator ted cruz's turn in iowa. democratic strategist joins me t

adding an element of the absurd, it was a member of the republican caucus, congressman steve king ofisted the veterans to breach the security fence, and make their way to the memorial. for more now, i'm joined by nbc news correspondent, luke russert. luke, all credit to these heroes. but does it not strike you as odd that republicans like steve king and john cornen are celebrating them and asking that niece these memorials opened despite the shutdown. and before you answer, luke, here is michele bachmann greeting the veterans and their families. take a listen to her. >> and america doesn't shut down. >> yes. >> should they really be able to pick and choose which services are affected by the shutdown? which they, after all, have provoked? >> it's especially odd, martin, considering you do have, without doubt, a sizeable amount of republicans in the house gop conference that would not -- not only want to have a clean government funding bill on the floor right now, but would spore it, within ten minutes. i guarantee that is to be true. there are issues that we're not getting to any time

photo ops at this world war ii memorial they closed, and today a protester called steve king of iowa out on his hypocrisy. take a look at this. >> pass the budget, congressman. >> coming here on the dpthe -- >> pass the budget, congressman. why are you making -- >> their children and -- >> why have you come down here for a political opportunity, for a camera shot, sir? the real patriots are the veterans who came down here. put your tail between your legs, go back up on the hill, and do your work! >> goldie, what kind of shape would we be in if the republicans spent as much time doing their work as they were doing photo ops? >> you know, those members of congress have no business at our war memorials or anywhere else today. where they belong is their butts in their seats on the house floor voting to reopen this government. that's where they belong. photo ops and all of those kinds of things, and i even saw them give capitol hill police officers a standing ovation today, which they so richly deserve. but what they deserve even more than that is a paycheck. so to believe that these peop

think those forces have been marginalized to some extent whether it's the ted cruzes or congressman steve king a few minutes ago called the president spiteful saying he's doing all this on purpose? >> if you look at the base of the republican party, that is who is supporting this strongly. whether they've been marginalized for the moment where there's this work towards a short-term deal, perhaps john boehner has earned himself credit, amazingly, with the people in his party and his caucus who have been most opposed to him and given him the hardest time throughout the year like the steve kings of the world. i don't think they've been marginalized. i think they may be quieter for the moment and they may be able to be put to the side for the moment. but you are going to see a repeat of this for a while, i believe. >> so maybe if this happens and we get a breather, they have time to negotiate four to six weeks, the government is up and running again, the debt ceiling is increased, then what is the conversation look like? >> i mean, i totally agree with that. the sort of tea party jump over the led

here's ted cruz, and congressman steve king. early morning conversation. over coffee.g excuses for dick cheney shooting his friend in the face. according to them, it happens. >> yeah, look, it happens. >> it's just part of it, and risk is a factor. >> now, if cruz and king are really good friends, why in the world would they be talking about dick cheney's hunting accident? ted cruz can go to iowa, pose for the cameras all he wants, with a shotgun, hold it wrong, pretend he's a regular guy, normal guy. but you know what, don't let him fool you. he's not the normal dude that he wants you to believe he is. he doesn't care about average americans. and the fallacy in his whole push to win over the conviction crowd, anybody else who pays attention to this, knows that all along he's been going after president obama, and obama care. not once has he stepped up and given a solution to the 50 million americans who don't have health care. another thing that catches my attention is that over 10% of america's largest companies pay zero percent tax rate. i would like to know where th

he was going to pheasant hunt with steve king tomorrow in western iowa.s well, which i expect to be very well attended. >> some saturday night live skits write themselves. kathie obradovich, thank you so much. kathie obradovich of the des moines register. >>> today's producer pick was a team decision. check out the start of game two of the world series last night. the red sox and the cardinals. only the original j.t., james taylor, only he can make a mistake like this and recover so smoothly. ♪ oh beautiful -- o say can you see by the dawn's early light ♪ >> seamless, seamless. it seems that it was a simple mistake. however, the underreported part of this story is that taylor was actually scheduled to sing "america the beautiful" during the seventh inning stretch. you can watch that entire performance over at thomas roberts' facebook page as well. r clients trade and invest exactly how they want. with scottrade's online banking, i get one view of my bank and brokerage accounts with one login... to easily move my money when i need to. plus, when i call my

now for the other side of the house, republican steve king of iowa join us tonight. congressman king, thanks for being with us. this piecemeal approach of your leadership that they tried tonight and failed. your reaction to the failure? >> i wouldn't have put them up on suspension, still it's a majority position of the house to fund this piecemeal in this fashion. we put three offers on the table over in the senate and each one were rejected. harry reid wouldn't wait for us to debate the last one. he simply announced we're going to table it in the morning. all you senators can go to bed and at 9:30 this morning they went ahead and tabled it. i have been in a lot of negotiations in my business life and whenever you put an offer on the table, the other side needs to bring a counteroffer. we've never seen one from the united states senate. >> i mean president obama won. why should the president of the united states negotiate on a law that he ran twice on, was elected on, his opponent ran against, american people didn't vote for his opponent and it's been signed off by t

steve king said it again this morning. >> i'm not worried this this thing that they term default because we are going to service our debt. we're going to pay the interest first and we'll roll the principal over. >> a lot of folks going here, joe, really? do they believe that? 69%? >> in national memo we call them the debt truthers, which has become a popular term for people like steve king who you have to remember also believed that the president was not born in the united states. they believe a lot of things that are patently untrue. and the idea that people who believe almost anything are in charge. >> 69% here. >> yes, are in charge of the future of the united states is quite astonishing. and that boehner would let them do that, because he knows better. he knows better. so to bring us up to default under the pretense of having to show he can lead his caucus could lead to a tragedy. >> joe, molly, stand by. i want to bring in congressman steve israel, democrat from new york and head of the democratic national campaign committee. a lot happening on the hill and a good morning to you, co