dick armey, bill paxon, steve largent, saxby chambliss, john sununu, lindsey graham, tom coburn, susan molinari, john kasich, bill zellef, and i know i`ve missed some. >> guest: right. c-span: almost -- other than tom delay and a couple of others the team that you started out with are gone. >> guest: well, you know, that happens in congress today. people used to say, well, you know, you go to congress, those people are there forever. the term limit -- you know, the term limit issue and all those things that we talked about -- you know, the average -- i don`t know what exactly the average term of a congressman, but it used to be for a long time. today, it`s probably eight years or ten years is the average time that a person stays here. and they cycle off and do something else. a lot of those folks that you mentioned are either in the senate or headed for the senate so i mean, they step up and do other things. saxby chambliss and lindsey graham, and coburn`s running for the senate, and others. so you know, there`s other careers, too. c-span: tom coburn did this show once, and it was -- i