tonight, first a conversation with rabbi steve leder, his book "more beautiful than before" examines the many ways we can transform physical, psychological or emotional pain into a more authentic and meaningful life. then, actor-comedian paul reiser is here to discuss his new hulu serie series," there's...johnny!" and his reoccurrin roles on netflix's "stranger things" and this last season of "red oaks." this dude is busy. we're so glad you've joined us. steve ledend paul reiser, in just a moment. ♪ >> and b contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. ♪ >>> pleased to welcome rabbi steve leder back to this program, the senior rab at one of america's largest and most important congregations located in the heart of los angeles. his latest text is titled "more beautiful than before: how suffering transforms ." he's a great guy, more important than that, he is my friend of 30 years, i think. >> 30 years. >> good to see you, my friend. >> you as well. >> i told you months ago when i heard you were doing this i wanted to have you on to talk about this, because we're

tonight, first a conversation with rabbi steve leder, his book "more beautiful than before" examines we can transform physical, psychological or emotional pain into a more authentic and meaningful life. then, actor-comedian paul reiser is here to discuss his new hulu serie series," there's...johnny!" and his reoccurrin roles on netflix's "stranger things" and this last season of "red oaks." this dude is busy. we're so glad you've joined us. steve ledend paul reiser, in just a moment.

both jordan peele and rabbi, steve leder.g this morning by what they have to say. very interesting conversation coming up. >> a feel a joke coming up. >>> right now is time to show you this morning's headlines from around the globe. you can't make this up category. the "dallas morning news" reports the president of the dallas-based american heart association suffered a heart attack during the organization's flagship conference. 52-year-old john warne cardiologist is now doing okay after monday's scare. doctors inserted a stint to open an artery. he was in good company. >>> a study suggests indulgent grandparents are bad for grandchildren's health. grandparents were inclined to feed high sugar and high-fat foods often in the guise of a treat. some were smoking in front of their grandchildren. that is all three no-nos. >> i don't have grandchildren yet, but i think i might be indulgent. we'll see. >> my parents are. >>> taylor swift showed up at national target store last night to buy her album and fans freaked out. swift poste

author of more beautiful than before is suffering before us rabbi steve leder.hes events while counseling huge congregation as senior rabbi. olde eest synagogue in southern california. >> good morning. >> suffering is instrucktive. it's good for us. suffering leads us to what? >> in a way, i think we're all only truly whole after we've been broken somehow. there's a death of empathy and wisdom and kindness that only comes from having suffered some form of physical or emotional pain. you know, success doesn't seech us ve success doesn't seech teach us much. only encourages us to keep doing. only pain that forces us to change. >> there is o no other way to get through that place. >> you believe everybody walks through hell in their lives. you just don'tel through empty handed. >> all kinds of hell. cancer, death, kid with addiction. >> you even speak you had to go through suffering yourself. you said you really didn't understand it until you were brought to your knees by a very painful accident and had severe back problems. the change made you nicer, you said. >>