maybe there's a greater purpose for everything. >> at age 56, steve madden has come a very long way. sy dad, a famous designer. >> look at you rockin' those boots. >> or hands-on businessman. >> madden is kicking up his heels. would you have done anything differently considering the way your life turned out? >> i wish that i had never been so foolish to break the law. that i would have never married my wife if i hadn't gone to prison or add my children. so -- everybody's got their own path. i love what i do, i've been given a second chance. am going to make the most of it. >> osgood: next, at long last. ♪ may you never be stuck behind a stinky truck. [ beeping ] ♪ may things always go your way. but it's good to be prepared... just in case they don't. toyota. let's go places, safely. but it's good to be prepared... just in case they don't. ♪ [laughing] why? please? (female announcer) the kitchen table is where news is shared, plans are made and decisions are decided. when it comes time to discuss insurance, we'd like to be there for you. [laughing] (announcer) physicians mutual. insura

>> not steve madden at all.adden is a great guy and everything, but he didn't go to jail just because of me. there was six other people who were together -- >> have you spoken to him? >> i haven't. the reason he did more time is he had some issues in jail. >> you got less time because you ratted out others. how do you feel about that now? >> it's a good question. there's two sides to that count, because the part of it that says, well, i'm supposed to do the right thing, and be an upstanding citizen and this crime is committed and i help bring those people to justice. the other half is you're ratting on your friends. >> would you do the same again? >> in the movie, i didn't rat my friends out. >> you ratted the ones you didn't like very much. >> it's the ones that weren't personal friends. it was an incredibly tough, ethical dilemma. and in the end, the real agent, agent coleman was an amazing guy. i have nothing but the highest regard and respect for. he was instrumental in helping me deal with that ethical dile

. >> i i don't think he has a case, steve madden shoes, he was upset, he went away,ut he gave them ahe didn't like the way he was prier trayed i portrayed. >> he is a cool guy. neil: what do you make of guy whom the movie was based. >> he is mad at me. neil:e is. >> and he is don't talk to me. he said, you know bo, you call me this name, i said, what do you think you were then,ll of a sudden you are robin hood? you robbed 200 million dollars, you went away for 18 months. neil: they are looking at him again? >> he is opening pandora's box. neil: the screen guy is doing the same. >> everyone is looki for a pay payday, the guy that movie was about is a creep, he was a creep then, but a lot of people are out of money, but i hope leonardo decaprio wins best actor, he did a fantastic job. >> terrific. lou: . >> soa scorsese did a terrific job. neil: you were robbed for a nomination. >> i called up scorsese. and i wanted tickets to the emmys. neil: what did they say. >> desm m. >>xcuse me my back, beau. >> reall >> wait until they leave me. this is leadingo bigger and better things. neil: t

. >> i i don't think he has a case, steve madden shoes, he was upset, he went away, but he gave themneil: but he didn't lik the way he was prier trayed i portrayed. >> h is a cool guy. neil: what do you make of guy whom t movie was based. >> he is mad at me. neil: he is. >> and he is d't talk to me. he said, you know bo, you call me this name, i said, what do you think you were then, all of a sudden you are robin hood? you robbed 200 million dollars, you went away for 18 months. neil: they are looking at him again? >> he is opening pdora's box. neil: the screen guy is doing the same. >> everyone is looking for a p payday, the guy that movie was abou is a cre, he was creep then, t a lot of people are out of money, but i hope leonardo decaprio wins best actor, he did a fantastic job. >> terrific. lou: . >> soa scoese did a terrific job. neil: you were robbed for a nomination. >> i cle up scorsese. and i wanted tickets to the emmys. neil: what did they say. desm m. >> excuse me my back, beau. >> rlly. >> wait until they lve me. this is leadingo bigger and better things. neil: that one s

. >> i i don't think he has a case, steve madden shoes, he was upset, he went away, but he gave them. neil: but he didn't like the way he was prier trayed i portrayed. >> he is a cool guy. neil: what do you make of guy whom the movie was based. >> he is mad at me. neil: he is. >> and he is don't talk to me. he said, you know bo, you call me this name, i said, what do you think you were then, all of a sudden you are robin hood? you robbed 200 million dollars, you went away for 18 months. neil: they are looking at him again? >> he is opening pandora's box. neil: the screen guy is doing the same. >> everyone is looking for a p payday, the guy that movie was about is a creep, he was a creep then, but a lot of people are out of money, but i hope leonardo decaprio wins best actor, he did a fantastic job. >> terrific. lou: . >> soa scorsese did a terrific job. neil: you were robbed for a nomination. >> i called up scorsese. and i wanted tickets to the emmys. neil: what did they say. >> desm m. >> excuse me my back, beau. >> really. >> wait until they leave me. this is leading to bigger and

now back from the brink under new ownership by her close friend steve madden and betsy is here with uso much for coming. >> believe it or not. >> i hope you don't ask me to do a cart wheel. >> that's what grandma has to do. >> do you train for these cart wheels or you do a lot of these? >> i think it's bad luck if i practice. usually if i practice, i'm so unfit that when i practice, i ruin myself. so i wing it. one day i know i'll fall and i'll get up. >> it brings us to the point so some extent which is there are so many lines competing in the fashion world right now, and you look at the success of michael kors, for example, just doing amazing. why is it that it's been more of a struggle for you? >> because i'm more weird. >> is that what it's all about? >> i really like to do the clothes i want to do. i have kind of represented doing your own thing for all these years, and i'm just not made for mega -- steve madden, we're doing mega mass production there, but for me and my little retail pink operation, i really liked doing my own thing to the nth degree. i didn't care if we made 50 o

obviously ralph lauren, michael kors, steve madden.il that's convenient for you to go to, you're going to keep going there. online if you're not a player that is building your online business, you should be out of business because that clearly is a giant future of retail. >> on the promotions idea we've seen so much of it throughout the season. are retailers training customers to expect this? in other words, can they get back to a world where it's not 50%, 40% off? >> i don't think they'll ever get back to that but i think this year was a little bit unusual. they tried to do all these big promotions in november and december so it was, like, an early christmas for everybody when january came. everybody was shopped out. and the weather contributed in january. >> the other question i have is online. i mean, you hear howard schultz, for instance, of starbucks talking on his conference call about the fundamental shift in the way consumers go out and shop and he said what you saw in december is going to be indicative of what you're going to

. >> he's the name and creative force behind steve madden shoes. sold in nearly 60 countries. >> look at you. >> you might even see him in a shoe store near you. >> i understand that you named all of your shoes after ex girlfriends? >> a long time ago. >> that's a lot of shoes, steve. >> sole searching with steve madden later on "sunday morning." >> >> osgood: there's a new star on broadway. with a very familiar voice. tracy smith will be chatting with that voice you've been hearing for years on tv. >> fran drescher on looks, attitude, that voice. >> that's not the queen mother. that's my mother from queens. >> everything that led to this moment. >> how is this moment? >> fantastic. >> now cinderella wicked stepmother sounds like a real new yorker. >> no one knows. >> ahead on "sunday morning." fran drescher the queen of queens. >> osgood: portlandia is about a city in the state of oregon. perhaps more accurately described as a tv show about a state of mind as mo rocca will show us. >> in the hit tv series "portlandia" is an at universe. hilariousl