we're joined by republican steve schmidt and democrat steve mcmahon. steve, this is really a fight within the republican party maybe by the republican party. i don't know if numbers mean anything in this discussion. i think if you're against border crossing of any kind by people from latin america, you probably don't care about the numbers unless you're using them to support your own attitude to start with. let's start with this. when hastert said today there isn't going to be a bill in the floor to have anything to do with a path of citizenship unless a majority of his rank and file support it, is that pretty much the big nail in the coffin for reform. >> that's the big nail for it. it would be very difficult to get through the house. one thing, chris, you just alluded to it, the compromise has always been predicated on the notion that on the one hand that there's going to be finally real border security in the country. and on the other hand, that will enable a path to citizenship. none of these republicans in the house believe the bill that came out o

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