let's go to steve mcmahon. my theory is, he could be like a kamikaze pilot in world war ii, he could blow up the ship, blow himself up, who cares, who cares if he's known as an s.o.b.? he's already known as an s.o.b., but in this case he's the guy who dropped the bomb and did it with impunity. >> that's right. you can blow yourself up but it doesn't matter if you take out your opponent, and he's very, very good at this. wayne didn't mention, perhaps, the greater slander of all, which was taking john kerry, somebody who was a decorated vietnam war hero and turning him into a swift boat captain's version of, you know, a lying, cheating, scoundrel. it's outrageous what he does. it's subliminal advertising. you know, this is what gets the right wing machine going. it's the same thing that the president deals with with this birther crowd. there's no justification for it. >> this health thing is really attacking the person's well being or being itself. i remember the old movie "anatomy of a murder," don't think of a