steve mnuchin when he was 10 years old. he told me steve was a very cute 10-year-old.i imagine you were a a really cute 10-year-old, too. max: that is right. i smelled like success. the piece is great in the new business week. thank you for being on the show. coming up, wall-to-wall coverage of the trump wall. we will talk immigration, after this. ♪ ♪ nicolle: joining us now to talk more about donald trump's immigration speech, we have the executive director of america's voice, and a legal analyst at the center for american studies. -- i'm immigration studies. also on set, we are joined by a reporter from bloomberg. thank you for being here with me. i want you to start hearing from all of you on just a policy level. there is plenty of time to get into the politics, but can you both tell me your take on the substance of what he proposed in his policy address last night? let's start with you. >> the media has been demanding a lot of detail for the past couple of weeks. they got it. this was a very long speech with a variety of provisions in it that, if enforced, would ac

we found out that the actual operation that steve mnuchin is a chart of, -- he is in charge of -- thesedecades building of these kinds of networks. what trump has looks like a classic donald trump business. you know when he has cologne like success, which i have back in my desk. nicolle: do you seriously? does it smell good? are you wearing it? reporter: not right now. colognes are made by other people. these are businesses where trump licenses his name. in a funny way, that's what's happening right now with the fund-raising operation. the work,ng a lot of because donald trump did not have networks of people and ways of making money, and neither did steve mnuchin. john: i want you to give us a picture of, what is this guy like? first of all, i can smell you here in los angeles. i'm sure you smell really good. is he charming, is he scheming, is he tough? just give us a quick personality sketch. reporter: i will say it was a little intimidating to write about him, because he comes across as a little bit bland. he does not seem super into donald trump. he seems like a businessman kind of o

neither did steve mnuchin. >> i want you to give us a picture of what's this guy like? of all, i can't smell you even from here in los angeles. i'm sure you smell really good. what's the dude like? is he charming, is he scheming, is he tough? just give us a personality sketch. >> well, i will say it was a little intimidating to write about him because he comes across as a little bit bland. he's not a guy who is super into donald trump. it seems like he's kind of a businessman who is on the verge of a business deal, one that he doesn't really want to get into. for example, we would say why are you doing this. he would say it's a unique opportunity at a very unique time. he repeated the word unique four times in one paragraph when we were talking to him. he's very goldman sachs. you can tell that he really grew up around goldman sachs partners. in fact, lou eisenberg was his dad's partner. he knew steven mnuchin when he was 10 years old and told us he was a very cute 10-year-old. >> max, i imagine you were a really cute 10-year-old, too. >> that's right. i smelled like su