steve montgomery is here -- gentlemen, you go against each other if you have a different view.from the right, fight. it wasn't so much an issue that obama care is the one on the table right now. it's this sort of -- the cause. it is like the old civil war guys that never forgot the war and kept fighting. we got to win the fight. we got to win the cause. there's something so gut in this. i don't think it's going away no matter how many treaties they sign. >> you know, within the republican party, every republican does not like obama care. all republican in the congress voted against obama care. this is not a strategic fight within the republican party. it's a tactical fight. and for jim demint to say that the other republicans are part of the surrender caucus, he's doing it for one reason. he wants to raise money off of a tea party that hates obama and this is the best way to do it. >> let's talk about tactics. you go to a bank and take money out, withdrawal, or gu with a with a gun and shoot the bank teller to take the money b. that's tactics. i think it's a difference between