does that argument on behalf of the white house have any merit to you, steve moore? >> well, here's the problem with narcs i i agree completely with steve about the counterintelligence aspect of this. the president is acting unwisely in this. however, when comey was fired, who was in charge and who could have authorized even something as small as a preliminary inquiry against donald trump? it would have been the acting director andrew mccabe and the deputy assistant director in charge of counterstrell jens strzok. sow have two people compromised, not in the counterintelligence way, but the american people have that compromised trust in them because they were both marched out because of political bias, apparently. so the problem is you have the fruit of the poisonous tree. people are fought going to believe an investigation that is opened by those two guys after their boss got fired. and so i think it should rightly go to mueller because he apparently doesn't have that baggage. >> we will continue to watch it. it's a remarkable new development that we'll follow, steve

years, we moved the whole trajectory of the economy from %-plus. 2% to 3% to 3 i'm proud that i and steve moore and steven mnuchin and a chap named donald trump put together a tax and deregulation incentive plan to restore america's growth and to operate through businesses, particularly large and small business, and i'm proud of the fact -- and this is the bone of contention. so far two years, it is precisely the blue collar group whose job gains have been the best, best since the mid 1980's, and wage gains have been the fastest. they're beating the white collars. not the level of wages but the increase. these are the things we talked about and they're coming to pass and i believe as long as the policies are in place they will continue. that's what i'm most proud of. point estimates on such and such and this and such, we don't know. reporter: you said the nanosecond government reopens, these glitches -- what about all the secondary businesses, the restaurants, the contractors who haven't been paid, the contracts that haven't gotten signed? mr. kudlow: they will get it back. i will suggest to yo

. >> joining me now is steve moor, a retired special agent at the fbi. he has the tie on for the interview and steve hall, a retired cia chief. welcome to both of you. thank you for talking with us. i want to start with you steve hall. is this a potential bombshell. they are looking at whether the president of the united states perhaps was or is a russian intelligence asset. >> sure x by the way you phrase the question, it's a very big deal. from a counterterrorism perspective, there were questions about people in the news because of the activities they undertook and they were brought to judgment after investigations. there was always a question, oftentimes raised by the white house themselves, yeah, but was the boss involved. did donald trump know what manafort was doing or flynn? now, what we have learned is the fbi is seriously asking that question. that, in and of itself is a big deal. yeah, for me, from a counter intelligence perspective, it's a big deal. >> same question to you, steve, then we'll break it down. your initial thoughts when you heard a

steve moore is one of the great financial gurus and he will tell you how well we're doing as a country. valley have a lot of people that really, we need. we have the lowest unemployment rate we've had in much more than 50 years. with african-americans, with asian americans, with hispanic lowestns -- we have the unemployment rate we've had in the history of our country. that's why look at the hispanic polls, i am up 19%. the reason i'm up 19%, i don't think it's the unemployment, i think it's the fact that they understand better than anybody what's going on at the border and they say that president trump is the only one that is setting it right and he's doing what you have to do. that's right. people were so surprised when they saw the poll that came out, i'm up to 50% with the hispanic, up 19 points in a short period of time. because they get it better than anybody at the border. they know what is happening at the border. they know it's a big scam. the democrats don't want to stop people. that means automatically massive amounts of crime. and we're not going to put up with it. , knowin

. >> let's talk more about this now with steve moore and robert english. steve a retired supervisory special agent for the fbi, and robert, a russia expert as the deputy director of the california school of international relations. gentlemen, thank you for your time. >> sure. >> robert, i'd like to start with you, this latest reporting the u.s. president allegedly concealed details of his private meetings with vladimir putin, a claim without question would be out of the ordinary for senior officials not to know what was said except for the president's interpreter who he allegedly instructed not to discuss what was said. what would that mean for national security and for everyone else who was apparently left out of the loop? >> well, it's not actually unpr unprecedented. under richard nixon, the extraordinary secrecy he and henry kissinger went to conseal the preparation for the dramatic change in relations, the recognition of the peoples republic of china. that was all kept secret for fear that if it leaked opponents would raise a human cry and undermiep th

david: thank you so much, heritage founder steve moore. fellowtage foundation steve moore. seeking reelection. notr alexander seeking election either. live from new york, this is bloomberg. ♪ this is bloomberg. ♪ david: you are watching "balance of power." i am david westin. the partial government shutdown is in its 14th day. the president is meeting with again with congressional leadership to try to reopen the government. a deal does not look all that easy. >> leader schumer can make a deal. pelosi: we are diligent and persistent in trying to open the government. >> it has to achieve real gains on border security. you have no border security without a wall. wall! pelosi: we have no so that sort of sums it up in my view. a political roundtable of a professor and a republican strategist from burlington, vermont today. is this wise that they cannot get a deal done without a wall? >> i think it seems to be right now, but whe if not now, when? we had an opportunity to get it done. >> there is not a deal to be done that is going to involve a wall, and that is very clear. the pro

coming up, new york times calling out steve moore for his comments on the economy saying steve is wrongieve it? after the major election i wonder what the state have to say about this? we asked him coming next. as a fitness junkie, i customize everything - bike, wheels, saddle. that's why i switched to liberty mutual. they customized my insurance, so i only pay for what i need. i insured my car, and my bike. my calves are custom too, but i can't insure those... which is a crying shame. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ david: new york times columnist is calling out cnn for booking economist even more claiming steve's been quote, caught many times making factual errors. he blasted cnn for laboring more as a top economist. got to remember when he wrote this on the initial election night fell off after trump elected president of the question is when markets will recover a first pass answer is never. well, they - we reached out for comments and his criticism but he is not spotted to us. let's bring in economist and co-author on trump economics, steve moore.

. >>> let's talk more about this now with steve moore and robert english, steve, a cnn law enforcement and retired supervisory special agent for the fbi and robert, an expert as a deputy director of school of internationalrelation s via skype from los angeles. thank you for your time. this latest reporting that the u.s. president allegedly concealed details of his private meetings with vat meladimir put claim that would be out of the ordinary for senior officials to not know what was said except for the president's interpreter who allegedly instructed not to discuss what was said. what does that mean for national security in your view for everyone else who was apparently left out of the loop? >> well, it is not absolutely unprecedented. and probably listeners, our viewers know, for example, of what occurred under the presidency of richard nixon. the extraordinary secrecy that he and henry kissinger went to conceal the preparation for the dramatic change in relations, the recognition of people's republic of china. that was all kept secret for fear that if it leaked, opponents would rais

steve moore was there, an informal white house adviser. joe walsh, and patrick healey the politics editor of the "new york times," steve, you were there with the president today. a gop source telling us tonight the president is considering that executive action to build the wall if this doesn't end soon. did he talk at all about that? >> it's funny. i know that subject came up about whether there would be the president would use executive action. i don't recall him saying that. i'm not saying he didn't. we talked about a lot of things. so i can't confirm he said that. but i think the mood among all these conservative leaders was that trump has made a very reasonable offer to pelosi and, in fact, i was worried that some people would say on the right, oh, this is just an amnesty and we can't go along with this. but i think trump is certainly unified conservatives behind us. and on the state of the union, i have to say this, what is nancy pelosi afraid of? why in the world is she worried that trump is going to make his case in front of a nati

. >> hello, it's my pleasure to be here today steve moore and to talk about his new book trumponomics, a book he co-authored with arthur and i don't thank you need an introduction to anyone who's worked in washington dc but the audience and not everyone is here you are a distinguished fellow at the heritage foundation but you have been pretty much everywhere. you started -- and its year was

. >> host: it's my pleasure to be here today with steve moore to talk about his new book, "trumponomics and it's a book that he co-authored arthur laffer. and steve, i don't think you need an introduction, anyone who's worked in washington, d.c. but since the audience that if one is from here, you are a distinguished fellow at the heritage foundation but you can pretty much everywhere. even at the

. >> hello, it's my pleasure to be here today steve moore and to talk about his new book trumponomics, a book he co-authored with arthur and i don't thank you need an introduction to anyone who's worked in washington dc but the audience and not everyone is here you are a distinguished fellow at the heritage foundation but you have been pretty much everywhere. you started -- and its year was that? >> guest: that was around 1999. >> host: and you were on the editorial board of the journal and you are a contributor at cnn and a regular and you are on fox before so you have been everywhere. >> guest: i knew everywhere. >> host: in your co-author if you are in the world of texas and visit a reagan economist and he's the president of -- associates so it's my pleasure to be here to talk about you and the head of the council of economic advisor kevin hassett you are in my opinion the hapless warrior for the free market. >> guest: thinking. i sent larry kudlow up there. >> host: and i agree that they belong to that but you are kevin and just it really happy warriors in your optimistic and you

listen steve moore will tell you they were expecting 5-6% after the tax cut. now you guys all talking -- david: it's still a lot better than it was during the obama administration. >> that's not accurate. david: it sure is we have more jobs than ever before but i have the last word folks because we've run out of time. new year, drug prices going way up, will this get more amunition to politicians who want socialized medicine the big debate is coming up and apple is down 7% after-hours if it stays at this level the stock will shave 75-80 points off the dow tomorrow going to be a big day stay with us. the fact is, americans move more than anyone else in the world. on average, we'll live in eleven homes. and every time we move, things change. apartments become houses, cars become mini vans. as we upgrade and downsize, an allstate agent will do the same for our protection. now that you know the truth, are you in good hands? ...that's why i've got the power of 1-2-3 medicines with trelegy. the only fda-approved 3-in-1 copd treatment. ♪ trelegy. the power of 1-2-3 ♪

. >> host: it's my pleasure to be here today with steve moore to talk about his new book, "trumponomics" and it's a book that he co-authored arthur laffer. and steve, i don't think you need an introduction, anyone who's worked in washington, d.c. but since the audience that if one is from here, you are a distinguished fellow at the heritage foundation but you can pretty much everywhere. even at the cato institute, you started the club growth, in which year? >> guest: around 1999 1999. >> host: . you on the editorial board and you are a contributor at cnn, a regular, you're on fox before. you have been everywhere. >> guest: and you. >> host: your co-author come you in the world of taxes for a boy knew of, he was a reagan economist and use the president of arthur laffer associate. it's my pleasure to be here to talk with you today. .. you're optimistic, you are a true believer and i've known you for a very long time and this is one of your distinguished features >> one of the things i loved, i think we as free-market conservatives are naturally optimistic. we think things are going to get

maybe only just the president, peter navarro and steve moore think these tariffs have been good for the u.s. economy. i mean, apple, fedex, coca-cola, general motors this has been a drain on the u.s., also on china but also on the u.s. this is the nature of trade. trade is win-win. yes, the tariffs have hurt china, but they have also hurt us. i think everyone would breathe a sigh of relief if this trade war could get finished. it was supposed to be easy and quick to win, hasn't been the case. >> not in favor of the tariffs. i think tariffs are taxes. i think they have a negative effect on the economy. although i back trump with respect to what he's doing in china. and you know, the issue that was brought up a minute ago, can trump win on everything? you know, david, he doesn't have to win on everything. he just needs to get even a partial victory i think would be hugely positive for the stock market, hugely positive for the economy. trump cares most about getting re-elected. and if he can pull off a trade deal, even if it's a partial trade deal, i think he skates home in a big massive l

"outfront" now, national affairs correspondent for the nation, joan walsh, steve moore, and white houseondent for american urban radio networks, april ryan, also the author of "under fire." joan, is this all about hillary in >> you know, people are trying to make it all about hillary, and that's the sad thing, erin, about only having had one female party nominee for president. i hope for the sake of our daughters that in ten years, 15 years, there will have been so many, there will be a range of people to choose from. but i think what bothers people about some of this comparison is using the term, over and over, likability and i recognize that likability matters in politics, that it affects men too, but the range of what gets a woman considered unlikable is really damaging. so that it -- we have research that shows that as a woman becomes more ambitious or shows that she wants something, wants power, that makes her less likable when likability matters so much. so, you know, i think she's fighting this -- she's fighting this battle and i think a lot of us, i'm not supporting her, i'm gla

steve moore is one of the great financial gurus, he will tell you how well we're doing as a country.e have a lot of people that really we need. we have the lowest unemployment rate we've had in much more than 50 years. with african american, asian american, hispanic american, we have the lowest unemployment rate we've had in the history of our country. that's why when you look at the hispanic polls, i'm up 19%. the reason i'm up 19%, i don't think it's the unemployment. i think it's the fact that they understand better than anybody what is going on at the border. they say that president trump is the only one that is saying it right and he's doing what you have to do. that's why people were so surprised when they saw the poll that just came out where i'm up to 50% with the hispanic and up 19 points in a short period of time. because they get it better than anybody at the border. they know what is happening at border. they know it's a big scam. the democrats don't want to stop people. that means automatically massive amounts of crime. we're not going to put up with it. so nancy pelosi,

steve moore is one of the great financial gurus.ll you how well we're doing as a country but we have a lot of people that really we need. we have the lowest unemployment rate we've had in much more than 50 years, with african-american, with asian-american, with hispanic-american, we have the lowest unemployment rate we've had in the history of our country. that is why when you look at the hispanic polls i'm up 19%. the reason i'm up 19%. i don't think it is even the unemployment. they in fact understand better than anybody what is going on at the border. president is trump is only one saying that it is right. around he is doing i right. people are so surprised when the poll came out with up to 50% with hispanics and up 19 points in a short party. they know what is happening and at the border and they know it's a big scam. the democrats don't want to stop people. that means automatically massive amounts of crime and we're not going to put up with it. so nancy pelosi, knowing these facts and knowing that is something she can't win, th

steve: in fact after jamil moore died you became friends with some his friends and you were able to look. for whatever reason the sheriff's detectives did not look through his belongings. when his belongings were collected from the morgue, we have had the journal. in the journal he detailed how ed buck hooked him on crystal meth. had given him his first injection of crystal meth. such a painful, painful journal, i'm sure the young man never thought the world would ever read. he told us exactly what happened to him. after that journal was published, after i published that, that is when the sheriff's department decided to open a homicide investigation. a lot of evidence from ed buck's apartment was already destroyed and gone. steve: with ed buck and current, the death they're investigating right now, regarding 55-year-old timothy dean, here is the statement from mr. buck's attorney on the death. listen to this, jasmine. >> the individual came over. had already been partying apparently had already taken some substances. this is a situation where mr. buck has had long-time friends who unfort

moore joins me now. and keith boykin. steveugh because those sound bites are so absurd and no one can say it better than trump but the bottom line is, steve, this is a president who does love debt and he has not kept his promise so far. >> well, you know, erin if you look at the preceding president this is a president who, you know, talked about how horrible the national debt was when he was a senator. >> stop right there. >> let me make that point. >> every single president runs up the president. they are alter bill. but this one went out and said again and again. >> so did barack obama. >> why is your answer to why trump broke his promise, barack obama did too. >> every president going back to lyndon johnson has promised to balance the budget. we only balanced the budget four times in the last 60 years. you can make that criticism of virtually every president including barack obama you're right the debt has gone up by $2 trillion in trump's first two years. under barack obama it went up by $3 trillion in his first two years.

kate moore, quincy crosby, phil swagel, rick santelli, and steve liesman. check in on the maetrk's biggest movers following the jobs report. stay tuned you're watching "squawk box" on cnbc ♪ memories. what we deliver by delivering. >>> welcome back to "squawk box," everybody. the december jobs report showing a huge gain of 312,000 the street was only looking for 176,000. so that was a much stronger number than had been anticipated. the unemployment rate ticked slightly higher. it went up to 3.9% when the street expected it to decline to 3.6% 3.7% had been the number from the previous time around then the average hourly wages, that was up 0.4% versus the 0.3% that had been anticipated. also very strong participation numbers. and those are all things that the market's kind of chewing through. as a result we're looking at the futures. they've been pretty much unchanged. dow futures before we got these numbers were up 287 now they're up 285 >> they have gone down >> we've been watching it but it's basically where we started. you can call this unch 10-year yield

child predator like ray moore should not have been a hard vote but we've seen far too little courage out of this republican congress. to john's point, you might not be able to get stevein 2020 perhaps by randy feenstra who has indicated he might run. but every republican should be forced to be on record saying this person should step down. and that's not hard, either. every single one of them, including leadership, should come up and say, this person does not represent us, he should not represent our party, and we want nothing to do with him. congress wants nothing to do with him. again, that doesn't do anything automatically, but at least it has republicans on the record that they do not support what steve king has said. let's not forget, this isn't new. steve king has been saying this kind of stuff for a long time. just last year, you know, five minutes ago, he was defending his association with an austrian far right organization with neo-nazi ties, saying if they were in america, they would be republicans. is this a person the republican party is proud of? if not, republicans need to say so. >> i do want to switch topics since i have both of you here. you're heari

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economize steve men moore discussed the economic policies open the trump administration lewis shelley examined the growth of illegal global trade with the emergence of new technologies. in the coming weeks journalist steph any land will report on living in poverty, send gas which gorka will offer thoughts on how thank you u.s. strengthen national security an examination whether the american dream is obtainable today. >> miss young, a kid i spoke to from texas said, i thought that barack obama was going -- things were going to be better and in fact they're not. i think that is forced us to really take a good, hard look at what is success. if get together the presidency -- its that's success, isn't -- that should have been our team and our goal. i feel like lot of us saw that is a the dream. and, yes, it happened, it and was good, but he was others. he was told he was, not, american and that person is now president. so i think that made us say, hmm, hmm, let's look aft this again. >> "after words" on saturdays at 10:00 p.m. and sunday us at 9:0. on booktv, on c-span2. all previous "afte