for more, let's bring in steve moore. he is a cnn law enforcement contributor and retired fbi supervisory special agent. thank you so much for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> so, steve, ten people were tragically killed in this mass shooting, including a police officer. the suspect is in custody right now, so what will police be asking him to try to establish what his motive may have been and whether he perhaps planned more attacks? >> well, i don't think they're going to have to ask him very much. i think his desire is going to be to tell them all about all of his grievances, all of his -- all of his -- the things that really infuriate him, things that to you and me might not make sense and would certainly not justify taking a life, but in his mind, justified killing ten people and effectively ending his own life. so he will want to tell them because that's -- i mean he made a bold statement, and so he's not going to hide it. >> so what are you able to establish from what you know so far about what has been bro

so we can raise taxes above where they are and still succeed. >> charles: steve moore?ngs. first of all, this day and age, the term moderate democrat is a oxymoron. even the two senators that you just mentioned just voted for a $1.9 trillion outrageous spending bill that isn't necessary. they said we're not going to vote for it and they did. bill clinton was a fiscally conservative president. we saw government spending fall from 22 to 18% of gdp under bill clinton. the leanest government in probably 40 years and the economy boomed. maybe that tells us big government is not the solution, that we need the opposite. the tax increase will do significant damage. one last things, charles. the we had this debate three or four years ago. liberals said it wouldn't work. we did the experiments, we had the science. now we have the evidence that that worked. we had record job creation, record low poverty, record low unemployed. >> charles: liz, i'll let you jump in. but we're running out of time. i want your take also that whatever lawmakers or other people feel, it seems like the

steve moore how do you read this 379,000?surprised it is happening so quickly, but, you know, right now in florida, florida is just bustling with activity couldn't get reservation for restaurant last night streets crowded beaches crowded people getting out, just full of people, this economy is back the stimulus is the vaccine. and we -- the big message of this report don't do 1.9 trillion dollars we don't need it the economy is ready just get vaccine out there, you know, we think by the way, casey morgan and i had think this bill will actually lead to seven million more people being unemployed next six months you are having a situation next few months where you are going to have -- all over the country not getting people back to work, because government is paying them more to stay unemployed than to go back on the job. maria: yeah, i i mean stimulus package certainly plays into this conversation. but eric friedman interesting reaction from market here how do you see this? officially we first got this number we saw the market,

. >>> joining me now is cnn contributor, and retired fbi special agent, steve moore. steve, thank you for being with us. >> thanks, john. >> just when do you think we will get word on a motive here? and for all we know about the methodical nature about the shooting, itself? he just went off one at a time. he was quiet. deliberate, some say. does that lead you anywhere? >> it doesn't. law enforcement. it doesn't have a crystal ball. and so, i think, what's going on right now is, first, there's -- they're identifying him. secondarily, you know, the why -- the why is very important here. because we are dealing with specific issues that -- that will help us determine, you know, how this happened. if anybody helped. it -- it's just tragic, at this point. >> wlhen you are looking for a motive, clearly it's a big help when the gunman is alive, as -- as he is in this case, the alleged gunman. but it appears quite possibly he is a lone shooter and that mights it harder, in some respects, i guess as well. >> one of the things is -- yeah, and you got that right. almost always, it

steve moore and robert wolf are ready to react to that. >> john: first, congressional correspondent jacquir a lot about the word reconciliation in the future. >> no kidding, john. congress is trying to remove her out of 381 billion in automatic spending cuts set to impact medicare and social security that were triggered by the spike in deficit spending from the covid relief bill. before that is settled the white house and democrats are working on this big infrastructure package that will also have to be paid for. tax hikes are on the table. progressive's have long advocated for wealth tax and treasury secretary janet yellen's janet yellen said is it consideration but bloomberg reports they are in discussions right now around raising the corporate tax rate to 20% from 21%, peering back tax preferences for limited liability companies and partnerships, raising the income tax rate from people making more than $400,000 year, expanding the estate tax and raising the capital gains tax on millionaires. plans are in the very early stages but republicans are warning against any repeal of trump era t

steve moore, always a pleasure. thank you. >> thank you, charles. >> charles: folks, you're now looking live at new york city where as you just heard indoor dining will go to 50% capacitied too. that's up from 35%. it's giving my next guest reason to be hopeful. andres is the owner of tribeca's kitchen. we talked before. first of all, congratulations for toughing it through this much of what has been a onerous approach to your industry in new york city. is this enough for you to make it through? >> we already made it through. we got this far. i've been through everything under the sun. if you told me i'm a new customer, he said there's a lot of new yorkers that have never been to new york. there's a lot of new yorkers that stay here and a lot of people that left. new yorkers have a strong way and they never lose. they get through it. we deal with it. this is another one. so all of the things that could be happening out there, you know, as a restaurant owner, my dad worked here for 30 years. we have an obligation to

. >> sandra: interesting stuff, hillary vaughn, former economic advisor steve moore. ake with this tax credit becoming permanent? can the country afford that? >> well, when you are looking at deficit already this year with the latest forecast is almost $4 trillion. that is $4 trillion. when i first came to washington 35 years ago the entire budget was $1 trillion. now, with the infrastructure bill that you were talking about, sandra, by many estimates that would potentially be another trillion dollars of debt on the backs of the economy. look, at some point the country will go bankrupt. we cannot continue to spend and borrow at this pace. i think it is very reckless and start time to pay the government bills. >> sandra: and i'm sure austan this was not addressed under the trump administration either but austan this reaction from thomas paine last hour. i asked about the child tax credit and what he thinks. here is his answer. >> you start to layer on the different entitlements out there and it becomes attractive to say, well, you end up this 250 -- it's very difficult.

with me steve moore, jessica tarlov and liz peek. also, this is heavy open households. a lot of money when it's said and done. the impact? >> yeah, i want to quote larry summers, a liberal economist that does not like the size of the bill. it could really stimulate inflation, charles. the most telling statistic that he talked about is that the loss of income and wages from covid he estimates to be about $30 billion a month. this bill is going to provide five times that much in benefits. he just says there's too much in the bill and it's going to produce too much spending and basically generate inflation. there's $2 trillion on the side lines in the hands of american consumers. it's irresponsible and reckless to push this much more money out into the economy. >> jessica, i read another report that said a family of four many massachusetts after this next check goes out would have received $50,000. golly. that's generous. is it too much? is there anything in there in your mind that this incentiizes people? is there anything in there makes you think maybe we've gone too far

steve moore is a co-chairman of the committee to unleash prosperity, and a former economic advisor fors. >> there's a theme here paul that's really important throughout that bill you were talking about how the democrats want to get rid of the state right to work laws and there's this contest that's been happening between red states and blue states. and the red states have a model that's working incredibly well look at florida and texas and tennessee, and then you see these blue states that have, you know, crumbling economic problems, and even bankruptcy like new york, and new jersey, an california, my home state of illinois, and new democratic strategy is to try to just nationalize everything so there's no difference as between the state. and you talked about the right to work laws of forcing the -- the red states to become, of course, union states. the other thing democrats want to do is stop republican governors from cutting taxes. there's nine states that have no income tax at all. those are mostly red states, and i've been working with three or four governors throughout the country

at the top of the hour, kudlow will hatch it out with author steve moore and 32 advisers founder robertaway the gop argument saying that states need the money to rehire government workers or at least keep them employed. i get that, and local municipalities have really suffered, but what do you think the argument is, and how is this debate going to go down? larry: california and new york have budget surpluses. why should we give them any money? they have surpluses. and across the country, the total revenue story turned out much better than anybody thought because of the v-shaped recovery. and now, liz, i'm telling you the only thing i care about, the stimulus bill, we go -- we cover it laboriously every day, every minute of every day, you know what? 79 million vaccinations. that is the most important number in the universe right now. by the way, only 28 million actual cases, but we are up to 79 million, all right? we will probably double that in the next three months or so, and we are close to herd immunity, liz. what does herd immunity mean? open schools, open businesses, open jobs, get

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steve moore vaccine, failing that officials urge younger people to voluntarily hang back and let older folks go first. this 25 year old plans to do so. but i want to make sure that the people around me or safe and healthy as well, you know, because it's not just me trying to fight the virus. it's everyone and it's that communal spirit. the cdc director is trying to tap heading into spring. we have so much to look forward to, and so much reason for hope. right now. they're deborah villalon ktvu, fox two news. astrazeneca's vaccine and people under the age of 60, some unusual blood clots, berlin's top health official says the action was taken as a precaution, the county's medical regulator announced it has now received 31 cases of rare blood clots in recipients of the astrazeneca covid vaccine. virtual town hall meeting with these big congressman markey. sonya is happening later today. this meeting will focus on getting students back into the classroom. the congressman will be joined by tony thurman, the state school superintendent, as well as the contra costa county superintendent of sc

steve moore and austan goolsbee. steve. what do we do? you have a $2 trillion package that may be voted on this weekend. >> this is what we need to have happen. we need austan to get on the phone with the president and tell him we don't need the 1.9 trillion spending bill. it is absurd. economy is like a rocket ship now ready to take off. we're just starting to see the very early signs of this recovery that is going to get stronger as more and more americans get vaccinated. something austan and i agree on. the other point i would make is if we could just get -- i'm in florida right now. this state is absolutely booming. you can't even get a construction crew for four months if you want to build a house. the inventory is gone for people who want to buy homes here. the restaurants are full. why can't all america be like that? >> dana: some places have had cases different than florida. florida is doing well. other places doing better. austan, overall as you look at this economy how would you describe it? >> i'm quite pleased. let's remember

steve moore is an economic advisor and economist.ay that, because in front of me -- they will have to wait, jason, if you don't mind. i have a piece in front of me, you are signaling a warning bell on inflation. you signal to the federal reserve, go to the grocery store, go to the gasoline pumps. what is happening now with gasoline prices up $0.30 in the past month? >> that's a lot and that's a real measure of inflation for so many millions and millions of americans. when you go to the gas pump, how much are you paying? if it costs an extra ten or $12 that's a lot of money for middle-class workers in the same thing with the grocery store. i don't go a lot, my wife does a lot of the grocery shopping that i go every once in a while. i think it might be a good thing if our fed chairman jerome powell maybe went to the grocery store because he saying there is no inflation out there but i'm seeing it -- i'm not trying to say this is out of control, obviously we haven't had a major price increase for the last several years but it is somethi

steve moore is with us now. austan goolsbee. welcome to friday. nice to see you both. the deal. in the law if you take the money and we're talking about hundreds of millions and billions of dollars, guys, you can't raise taxes and you can't use the money to fund your pensions. we'll see how that goes. steve, what is the suit and how does it play out for ohio? >> well, look, it is not just ohio, bill. i think there are 20 other state attorney generals suing on the same basis and that's because a lot of taxes -- i've been -- states have been wanting to cut taxes this year. i've been working with mississippi, west virginia, utah, north dakota, a lot of states say the way to help their economy is revise their state tax systems. it is an assault on the ability of states to run their own fiscal policy not having washington dictate what they can and can't do. one final point. this allows states to raise taxes but not cut them. cutting taxes what is good for the economy, raising taxes bad for the economy, >> bill: i see it laced with moral hazards. go ahead, austan. >> i'm a l

steve moore is a great guy on fox news. anyway. feel real good about the future, and i love c-span, you guys are doing an incredible job reporting on politics. host: richard from clarksville, tennessee. richard, are you doing better or worse off? caller: we will go back two years, and no. i did not follow. i voted for biden. i lost $12,000 from 2019 through my benefits in cash what i paid out and i am a disabled veteran. i am a journeyman. there were four musketeers, and five stooges. i do not know what this gentleman before me has been so fortunate. my money came from my earnings from my body being a journeyman. i have done quite a bit of work and i get joy out of having laughter and hearing good things. now, falling in with trump has not been very nice at all. i saw him as how can you have six bankruptcies, i do not understand one rather than having to deal with six? host: ken from fremont, california. good morning morning. how are your household finances? caller: they are fine this morning. i really do not have a job or anything

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steve forbes, thank you for coming on the show. >> thank you. stuart: let's look at economic side of things. treasury secretary janet yellen says we could have full employment by next year. stephen moores, the economy will take off like a rocket ship. does that mean we reach full employment much sooner than next year? >> what i was saying i think we have an economy set up for real massive recovery because of the "operation warp speed." not the $1.9 trillion spending bill which i think by the way is a negative. i'm predicting that we are going to have 5 million fewer jobs as a result of this bill by the end of the year, stuart, because we're creating so many incentives in the bill for people not to work. it is like getting economics upside down. we want to incentivize people to work, be productive, part of the economy. this bill pays people so much money. there is eight or nine expansions of welfare in this bill with no work requirements, none. now we have going to have a good second half of the year, no question about it, as we open our businesses, stores, movie theaters. it is great, fantastic. yeah, i'm predicting this year we will see five or 6% growth. maybe i'm low-balling that.