this is something that helps of trump and steve muller do what they're doing today. it is not an invention of theirs. this is part of what i try to share in the book. you cannot reckon with the forces of steven muller and the forces of donald trump if you don't reckon with the movements that propelled them. >> got it. got it. a question, a little bit more about your crafts and muller. most like to report this book? if someone asks you reporting on one of the most controversial figures inside of the meat administration at a time when the administration is demonizing journalists. mosher experience like doing the actual legwork of the book? what roadblocks did you hit? >> guest: yeah, i mean, it was an interesting experience. i had people, people who were close to muller. i won't specify beyond that. people who were close to muller who were very -- he told me they were very afraid they'd made a mistake by talking to me. and those becoming after them. a lot of sources to speak to me because muller has become notoriously vindictive. and yeah, that was kind of a struggle tr

steve: please stay in their place. you know, it's one thing for mayor de blasio to go ahead and paint those mullers.e is going to do something like the blue line to support law enforcement, let them do that. it's is that blue line hurting anybody. ainsley: that artist said he is not black lives matter. he is pro-law enforcement, too. steve: it's not hurting anybody. ainsley: suing for a billion dollars and wants to give the money to law enforcement and people hurting right now. steve steve we will keep you posted. brian: crisis in law enforcement, they should be able to do it. next guest warns joe biden will not be able to stop it. former acting attorney general matthew whitaker says biden will pander to anti-police radicals. he's on deck. ♪ never letting anything get in my way. not the doubts, distractions, or voice in my head. and certainly not arthritis. new voltaren provides powerful arthritis pain relief to help me keep moving. and it can help you too. feel the joy of movement with voltaren. before money, people tools, cattle, grain, even shells represented value. then currency came along. they