[applause] >> and before we hear from abbey i would like to welcome steve noe from the city college board. >> thank you abbey for giving me an opportunity to speak about milton today. some of you may have heard that city college is facing some troubles; that we are at risk of losing our license to operate a college, and some of you may have heard that there is a -- as there should be -- a cause to save city college, to keep it from going under. what some of you may not know is that milton marks for over a decade on the board was trying to save city college before it became a popular cause, long before it was attention of media attention or the focus of some of the leaders in san francisco. the model of city college of san francisco is the truth may make you free, and for 20 years or so the

noes out on the top. did i? did you ever? how long? by the way, are you a cheater? would you have won had you not used performance-enhancing drugs? >>steve: oprah was absolutely prosecutor i al the way she presented the questions. you knew all these years lance armstrong has been a liar and a jerk. watch. >> you and i both know that fame just magnifies whoever you really are. so if you're a jerk, you're a bigger jerk. if you're a humanitarian, you're a bigger humanitarian. so what was going on with you during that time? and what did fame -- what did that do? >> i don't know if you pulled those two words out of the air: jerk and humanitarian. i'd say i was both. and we saw both. now we're seeing certainly more of the jerk part than the activist, humanitarian, philanthropist, leader of the foundation. we're seeing that now. i am flawed, deeply flawed. i think we all have our flaws. if the magnifying glass is normally this big, i made it this big because of my actions and because of my words and because of my attitude and my defiance. you watch that clip, that's an arrogant person. i go look at this arrogant person. >>gretchen: the thing is