a friend of mine here named steve o'sullivan wrote a book about negative campaigning maybe 10 or 12 years ago. his conclusion, sadly for him, that work for him. this particular campaign has been very light unserious edition, you know, it has been mostly each one talking about how terrible the other one is. that is not just presidential, its congressional and everything else. i think the american people would like to have some time. to be able to trust us. we are smart. talk to us about where you want to go, what you want to do. i don't know how to change that, except, if you find something being too negative, just decide you're not going to vote for them. if they start learning that negative campaigning work, you know, political consultants want to win elections. if they find other one strategy doesn't work, maybe they will change it. >> you have stressed the great political divide between the different parties. what about these corporations that play both sides? by lavishing members of both parties, they get special favors -- at the fda, destroying the food system with these genetically

second quarter, now 2.2%, those are down -- >> steve are you shocked gdp saw that big of a revision third time around the block? >> i'll not because jim o'sullivanas right. rick, did you see was it sales or demand? >> i haven't had a chance to comb through and not saying, mr. sullivan, my hat's off to him if he predicted it. i'm questioning that it's just a significant percentage revision after we should have tightened up and seen all the final durables and all the final inventories. >> rick, you and i argue about macro things and the great thing about us is let's not get hung up on tenths. i don't know if it was 1.8 or 1.7 i'd argue this is a strong economy. >> but if it revved up to 3% we'd all be talking about it a whole lot more. >> exactly but now it's down to 1.3 it's still a weak economy just like it was at 1.7. >> steve, you know what? this is wonderful because for viewers that don't like to go into the weeds with data, things like gdp, retail sales, durable goods, these are big, lofty numbers, and my opinion, we could talk about the nuances of qe3, we could talk about how the central bankers are going to save the world, but truly, no ma