steve phillips says the related delayed response is only hurt sports.y, so you are saying golden opportunity. is that right? >> major league baseball, the commissioner's office could not unilaterally implement drug testing. but this isn't good for baseball. it's a bad day for baseball. the black cloud is starting to rain a little bit. we may be moving a little bit closer to a cleaner playing field. but this is not a good day. i don't care how much publicity. it's not good. >> now we have these guys, we have them on the run, problem solved. >> it would be better if it didn't happen. but it is an opportunity to really set the standard and explained to her children. there are consequences for doing the wrong thing. neil: so now you hear about the baseball commissioner is not acting on these earlier threats. someone talk to them and said, we are going nowhere legally fast. what does that mean? >> process is flawed. baseball may be took the wrong road initially, but clearly they are sending a message that if he cheats there are consequences and it is such a

next guest has the reason why baseball lost more credibility following steve phillips, welcome back.g popularity and credibility was in place before but now steroids makes it much worse. charles: the stars have tested positive, barry bonds, roger clemens, the best players in baseball tested positive or are linked to steroids. alex rodriguez who many thought would be the best wherever linked to steroids and that is the issue, the credibility is shot, the best testing system, strongest and most disciplined of any professional sport the time there is any should people be up on baseball. stuart: does management of the fall, the authorities in baseball do they truly wanted out, gone, finished? >> absolutely. it has been there way forever. is not about bud selig and the commission is, they want a clean, level playing field, the unions corps ever fought drug-testing and finally got in place and the unions come along and players are throwing other players under the bus, they wanted as well. prayers a guys who test positive get what they deserve and should be punished. stuart: you are general

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. >> host: and melanie phillips writes in "the world turned upside down," among the educated and high-minded classes in particular -- stevepage, melanie, first, congrats on m books. i am so excited i can find more of you now. second, i was wondering what your view on the church of scotland's new position on israel is. [laughter] >> host: what's he referring to? >> guest: i think what he's referring to is that the church of scotland has taken in recent days a very belligerent attitude towards israel, and he's talking about, you know, it's part of the, it's called bds, poi cot, divestment and sanctions movement which basically seeks to vilify israel by pretending that it's the tyrant in the middle east and inverting everything so that the true victim in the middle east, which is israel, becomes the true tyrant, true aggressor which is the arab muslim world becomes the victim. and the church of scotland has leapt onto this particular bandwagon, and very distressing it is too. but in britain you see the established church, and britain is composed of both -- consists of england as well as scotland. scotland has a different chu