. ♪ ♪ david: there was a university of oregon runner, steve prefontaine, a legendary track star, andame close to him. how did you get him to wear your shoes? phil: well, we worked at it and worked at it and worked at it. obviously, that he had worn adidas his whole life, but he was right there in eugene, and we had a small office in eugene, and the guy who ran the office became his brother practically and ultimately convinced him to switch to nike, and he was our first real prominent track and field athlete. david: you went after others. do you have to pay them to use your shoes, or they just like it so much they use your shoes? phil: they all just like it so much, they wear them. david: really? phil: no. [laughter] phil: if they are good enough, they demand an endorsement fee from us or whoever. the one that comes immediately to mind is michael johnson at the 1996 olympics in atlanta, wore the gold shoes, which lifted us significantly. david: and you made those shoes? was one, john mcenroe of your players. he, from time to time, would lose his temper. did that reflect poorly on your