i want to get to steve rattner's charts so we'll do that in a moment. then i want to show you the vice president and ask you whether or not he is acting in the way we would like to see a president act. first, occupy wall street. the protests sweeping across the country and the globe, those marching against economic inaekities were given rhetorical am nation when warren buffett released how much he made. in response to the editorial saying he pays less in taxes than his employees, there's a kansas republican congressman who issued a challenge to buffett. >> well, i'm saying if we're going to shape an entire nation's tax policy based on one man's claim, show us the proof. if mr. buffett came before my budget committee, we'd expect him to show us the information under oath. and that's a reasonable expectation if we're going to change our entire nation's tax policy based on his claim. i'll trade my tax returns for his tax returns and we'll compare them. and then we'll make a discussion about tax policy after we see them. >> i tell you right, he backed him i

steve rattner doesn't look like he agrees. >> she's genuine in what she believes.is true that wall street hates her. wouldn't you hate someone if they called your entire industry and everyone in it essentially a criminal? the point about obama and wall street. it was absolutely true in '08. but if you look at '12, in fact, obama is doing very badly on wall street because they feel that obama has deserted them. >> obama's raised more money on wall street than all republican candidates combined. >> that's not true. >> it is true. >> it's only true if you roll in the dnc money. >> it's not apples and oranges. >> there's apples and oranges. at goldman sachs, mitt romney has raised $350,000 in the third quarter. how much do you think obama raised? >> i don't know. >> $50,000. >> okay. >> $50,000. >> so you're talking about nitpicking here, that's ridiculous. >> that's not nitpicking. >> come on, steve. he's raised more money from the dnc, which you know will be used for his campaign to reelect him. >> the reason that i think obama has not been as successful, if you want

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steve rattner, thanks very much. we're continuing the breaking news. steve jobs, dead at 56.g news. we'll continue on "piers morgan tonight" right after this. >>> we're following the breaking news. you're looking at apple headquarters in cupertino, california right now. a lot of sad people there, indeed sad all over the world. we also have a live picture of the apple store on fifth avenue in new york city. that store right now under renovation. but we're watching that store. look at this next picture. these are live pictures from the apple store right here in washington, d.c. this picture, by the way, brought to you by an ipad itself. the d.c. apple store. and it's being shot on an ipad. we're watching all of this unfold. and the president of the united states is watching it as well. the president, president obama, announcing just a little while ago that he has a statement he'd like to read, he'd like us to read. and let me read the statement from the president of the united states. "michelle and i are saddened to learn of the passing of steve jobs. steve was among the greate

general motors for example, much like allen mullally coming to ford motor company and steve rattner or ron bloom coming from his back and looked at this, how could gm have so many divisions in so many cars that aren't selling, so many unprofitable models? for the longest time gm was reluctant to give up anything. we don't want to give up saturn and we don't want to give up on you. the automotive task force force them to make hard decisions which were the right ones. gm is a smaller company now and a more profitable and more effective company, so i think in a compressed timeframe and the pressure that the task force was under, they really still -- instilled the needs of the companies and what had to be done. in fact taxpayers are going to put up more money, some hard choices have to be made and they really push those. huts kho one thing you dress in address in the book is that president obama and the president-elect of the time obama and president bush talked about keeping the companies alive really through the period of transition and you might touch on some of the,, from almost unilat

steve rattner and richard hoss are still with us.ican senator from wyoming, senator john barrasso. >> senator, let me ask you a question because -- >> thank you for your support. >> i had a misspent youth in congress. i never once said pass my bill or you'll be raped. this biden thing. >> he did not say that, joe. >> you can put that on a bumper sticker and sell that baby. >> it does seem to me over the top, it seems desperate. the president says the civil language and then we see this language coming out of the vice president. >> that's not what he said. >> of course it's over the top, it's joe biden. >> and the other thing is, you know, rape in flint, michigan, where he was talking about, it went down 11%. one day he says it's gone up 150% -- >> well, he's a politician. 150% up versus down 11%. he's only 161% off. >> or triple, depending on which day he's telling the story. >> it doesn't matter. we love joe. >> you have misquoted him. >> he basically said pass this bill or you'll be raped. let's play the clip again. and you tell me

they're scared and willie geist, in part they're scared when rattner came on, steve rattner had the biggestebt ceiling bill. >> right. >> they understand that their malfeasance, their recklessness, their negligence caused economic pain for americans. they know that now. i don't think they'll do tax gen. >> think so, but are they really acting differently? >> this max bachus plan came out and said no. >> they're negotiating. >> they are, but they stood fast on this position that we will not move on tax increases. >> so they come out way plan to close loopholes. >> right. >> the rate is 200 billion. >> some have had different languages. >> it's a mars/venus thing. >> the money spins any way you get that money to washington. >> the interesting thing about tax, we were talking about the top tier is we know that two-thirds of americans want to tax millionaires more. what was stunning is that each more millionaires, 68% think they should be taxed more. both sides of the equation are in the same place. >> come on. >> and -- >> that's amazing. >> that's warren buffett. i want to send more taxes. >>