steve rattner, former auto czar and cnbc contributor. more from steve in just a second.lines. >> hello. you just looking at me for that? >> well -- >> right now. >>> well, the hostage siege at an upscale nairobi mall, three large explosions, black smoke can be seen pouring out from behind. at least 59 people were killed when militants stormed the shopping mall saturday. the militant group has claimed responsibility for the attack saying it was in retaliation for a kenyan military intervention in somalia. a live report from nbc's ron allen on the ground in kenya, we're going to have that in about 15 minutes. in corporate news, the financial times reports that city group has suffered a significant decline in trading revenue that threatens to depress the bank's earnings. a market wide slowdown in activity and also take a look at the shares of blackberry hit hard again today on friday, the company warned it expects to report a huge quarterly operating loss and cut more than a third of the global workforce. it's also saying it's getting out of the consumer business entirely.

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we have steve rattner, harold ford jr. and thomas roberts as well. dr.teps that obama must now take on syria, the repugnant moral crime perpetuated against his fellow people. first, to mobilize global opinion against an increasingly destructive sectarian war in syria. second, to seek broader international participation in a more comprehensive effort to prevent a regionwide explosion. dr. brzezinski, how is the president doing in following these steps? >> i think he's off to a reasonably good start. it's quite clear that he has been skillful in dealing with congressional leadership. and i think he'll have wide-ranging american support for the military action that he's not only contemplating but intending to undertake. but in doing so, i think we have to be guided by three sort of broad principles. because our policy to now has been strategically extremely unclear. one, we have to make certain that by military participating, we do not create circumstances in which the principal beneficiaries are those elements that oppose assad, but which are extremely hos

former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst ste steve rattner and john mecham. we'll be talking about the pope in just a second. also new information on the potential motive behind the navy yard shooting and the effort to defund obama care, mark halperin we'll get to that in a second. how would you characterize where that stands? >> not since danny bonaducci had a man mishandle his career. >> pope francis is turning heads talking about the focus of the catholic church. he said the church has become obsessed with preaching about gay, abortion and contraception. and that people want pastors not clergy acting like bureaucrats or government officials. nbc's ann thompson has the story. >> reporter: in his short papacy pope francis preached loudest with gestures. it's the pope's words making headlines as he spells out his vision of the catholic church in a remarkable frank interview published in the jesuit magazine "america." we cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the news of contraception methods. we have to find a new balance otherwise

steve rattner, disputes his assertion and say, "i don't think with the aetch pro of the obamacare you see the numbers of people suddenly stopping hiring." mr. funk argues and counters, "we're out there on mainstream and obamacare is affecting the job-hiring picture. it is affecting large- and small-sized businesses. we don't know what the rules are going to be. it is affecting businesses and pemplet hiring out there. that's why our industry is growing quite rapidly." so here you have a person tied to the government basically say, well, these guys out there don't know what they're talking bsm the numbers don't bear this utah out. then you have someone who remind them, i'm on the front lines much so mr. funk is on the front lines and he is very clear. "we are out there on main street and become being i obamacare ise job-hiring picture." this is from patty in kissimmee. "i have lo lost the hours that e it possible to live on a severely reduced income and now that i will never get those hours back as positions roadblock created by the -- as positions have been created by the extra hours."

steve ratner says he instructed gm not to fund pensions for -- >> not union, right. >> rattner said it was not commercially reasonable and defended the decision by saying his job was to make sure gm emerged from bankruptcy as a viable company. republican lawmakers as you know have criticized that decision as an example of overly deep metaling by the obama administration and private business. there are a lot of people unhappy with how gm went down. rattner. the whole thing is a communist issue if you're going to get the government involved. >> same thing with the bondholders, when they fell in this whole thing. >> the gm bailout and the auto bailout. there's already people that don't like it. they will already tell you, it was done to benefit the unions. so all this is going to do is just -- they're already tainted with that. this is just going to confirm that a lot of that was -- >> there were some deals cut, the people thought that this was raw. but if you look at gm and -- >> but say it. we will fund the pensions of the union employees, the salaried employees, we're not going to fund