>> they dance around this issue. >> steve rattner and i had this discussion earlier and he was tryingretty much split. people on the far left and far right. joy, we were talking about barack obama in 2008 said it was inconclusive. it seems to be guys on the campaign trail are afraid to cite science. this is straight science. >> why? >> you tell me. it's not a right wing thing because. barack obama did this in 2008. >> i get that but he change edd that when he realized it when he was wrong. >> he changed it when he got elected. >> who is running for president on the democratic side that is also saying you shouldn't get vaccinated? >> you only get one person running on the democratic side. you have 8,000 on the republican side. >> you have elizabeth warren, she's speaking out. bernie sanders, those people are not say inging. >> this is ongoing theme this morning. everybody wants to paint this as a right wing thing. as willie said you have rand paul who was irresponsible and reckless in what he said and chris christie who walked his back. mike huckabee and a lot of people coming out sayi