steve rattner has charts on whether or not the banks are getting bigger and the influence that wall streetl have on this election. steve, what have you got there? >> the last time i discussed this joe and i almost came to blows. >> no we didn't! you always say that! >> we had a spirited discussion. so i wanted to give him equal time. >> i just responded to what you were saying. >> in any event, banks will be on the agenda and you'll hear confusing stuff about whether banks are getting bigger, not getting bigger. so i want to try to lay out why they are or aren't getting bigger and talk about wall street pay. so if you look at this and i say joe and bernie, big banks are getting bigger, a slot of it has to do with where you measure from. if you start from the beginning of the financial crisis, 2004, you can see here that the banks in fact a number of them are getting bigger by reasonable sizes. except for citibank. but that is largely because these banks made large acquisitions. they bought washington mutual, they bought countrywide, they bought merrill lynch so their assets grew. if you lo

let me ask you, steve rattner, as a supporter of hillary clinton, are you concerned about the bernieg a democracy, they are different. >> i agree, actually. i think the attacks have been mostly on substance, fracking, on issues where they disagree. i think sanders has a point of view to express. >> a lot of democrats agree with. >> obviously minority of democrats but a lot of democrats agree with that i think is a responsible point of view and should be part of the dialogue. he has said on her worst day hillary clinton would be one thousand times better than any of the republicans. i do think he will be supportive of her when the time comes. we can deeight -- you see the party coming together. >> i see the party coming together. there's not going to be a huge chism. i think the millennials will come out to vote. >> that's tough. >>> back in a moment with much more "morning joe." by the way, tonight, joe and his band are playing here in new york city. >> oh, my god, willie, this will bring millennials out. >> on the upper west side. >> keith moon on drums. he's doing much better. >> r