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we're optimistic that we'll pass it out of the house today. >> steve rattner, congressman. ves down premiums given that it hasn't been scored by the cbo. >> i'll be glad to address that if you would like, steve. >> let me make it a two-part question. that's one. >> sure. >> the second one is with respect to the pre-existing conditions, they would go into a high-risk pool. there are estimates that the high-risk pool would need $330 billion to fund that. $130 billion was in before. you added $8 billion yesterday. that leaves $192 billion shortfall. i'm not sure that you can say that everybody who has pre-existing conditions will continue to be able to buy insurance at an affordable price. >> we're going to have a phd discussion this morning on health care. but i'm glad to do that. part of your analysis is just not correct. when we look at pre-existing conditions, one of the things in this bill is that if you have insurance and stay continually covered and you get a diagnosis, your premiums can't go up. so part of that number that you're talking about would suggest that they ha

alix: a feisty steve rattner.ritish friend over here understand why we're going to care more about what mitch mcconnell set on our air just a few weeks ago. take a listen. mcconnell: we generally -- no matter who the president is, we don't pay a lot of attention to the president? budget,-- president's but defense spending is important. the one democrats had dollar increase for defense committee had to have a dollar increase for domestic -- we have woken out of that already. -- broken out of that already. there will be a bipartisan negotiation. why is that more important than what president trump unveiled? steve: the differences you have a parliamentary system, and we don't. there is one of the new wants here with mentioning -- to get a lot of those spending cuts, not he of them -- some of them, ashley nee is the democrats. you need 60 votes in the senate to pass a lot -- he actually needs the democrats. you need 60 votes in the senate. it is still a remarkable document. david: it is not something congress will app

we have with us steve rattner, someone who will be testifying before them. give us a preview. alk about is really what the principles are that you need to have for good tax reform, things like fairness, promoting growth, dealing with no international competitive position, and so on. i will i met up against the trump proposal, which i think falls short in a number of respects. impact ontedly, its the budget deficit and our debt and the fact that it is not balanced across all the strata of america. david: let's start with the tax deficit. we have had the chairman of ways and means committee and also mitch mcconnell. do you agree with them? steve: i agree with that. more importantly, it needs to be deficit neutral because we do have a significant deficit that is rising back toward the trillion dollar mark it we have a debt to gdp ratio rising. what is clear from what mitch mcconnell and other republicans have settlement is how they plan to measure whether the deficit is neutral. whether the use simple math, which is what i do and other analysts do, or if they use dynamic scoring,

i know steve rattner wanted to talk about it as well.the savage cuts to r&d, the savage cuts to education, the savage cuts to medicaid. i know you are a democrat in a red state. what's your position going to be over donald trump -- i just want to focus on the medicaid cuts because we have been sold this bill of goods by the president who said, listen,e're n -- and republicans in congress, quite frankly. my friends in congress saying we're not going to cut medicaid. we're just going to take it back to the states. well, no. now here the other shoe falls and we find out they are going to slash billions of dollars in health care funding from the poorest americans who can afford it the least. what is your position specifically on the medicaid cutting that is proposed here? >> well, in my state, there will be disproportionate paint in a lot of rural areas. my state has limited coverage of medicaid anyway. they did not expand the medicaid program, even though they were entitled in missouri with billions of dollars. for political reasons the mis

former treasury official steve rattner and msnbc political contributor rick tyler. broke the story, later matched by buzzfeed and

former obama treasury official, steve rattner. you heard him, roland martin.i want to start in political question. big sixtiry for the white house and the republican this is week. will it look like a victory in 2018? >> well, i think there's a difference between passing a bill and a victory. i think those are two separate things in this. i'll give donald trump -- i'll say he's right about something. that our health care system is broken. and he's right that something needs to be done. but both on affordability and access. all of us have personal stories. i have a brother and a sister who are doctors. i was on the board of a charity hospital. i had two daughters in the hospital for nine months. cost $2 million in their care in this. and i think until we fundamentally address, this bill doesn't do it. it makes affordability and access worse in this. until we address those concerns, the american public is going to keep crying about this. >> the question of a victory. i was struck by paul ryan saying i'm proud of this. yes, they feel good at the they kept their pr

generous social spending in the western world. >> richard haas, when margaret thatcher passed away, steve rattnerter with "the times," back when thatcher came to power in london in the early '80s said without thatcher, great britain would have been france. and, of course, as we know, steve is no conservative. it's not like he has portraits of margaret thatcher in his study, but he stated what was fairly obvious. why have the french been so resistant to a thatcher-type reformer that can go in, turn the tables over in the temple and make that country economically great? >> it's not just france. it's really all of southern europe. you have a tradition of this state control. part of the public sector. in this case it's, what, closer to 35%? it's just a whole different relationship, joe, between the individual and the state. and people essentially have opted for degrees of security over anything that was risky, even if the risk had a potentially higher upside. people just always embraced a version of the status quo, which had -- >> do you see that, richard? >> not a lot. think about macron, his ambiti

steve rattner, your chart is looking at the budget deal and what president trump got for defense. >>ot lost in health care and a lot of other stuff going on at the time. there's something very significant in what happened and that decision that relates to what the president may or may not be able to get done going forward. if you look at the result of the whole thing, the president asked for something like $32 billion of extra spending for defense, and he got roughly half of it. in fact, the half he got was put into a special separate fund called the overseas contingency fund which means it isn't in the base budget so it doesn't necessari necessarily become part of next year's budget. on the discretionary spending side, all those programs he wanted to cut by $15 billion, he got exactly zero. the $540 billion in the obama request is still the $540 billion. he wanted, for example, to cut a billion and a half out of nah which actually increased by $2 billion. he wanted to sezero out public broadcasting. >> he wanted to cut 30%, 40% of the state department. you're basically saying all th

former treasury official steve rattner and msnbc political contributor rick tyler. a lot to break down. "the post" broke the story, later matched by buzzfeed and reuters alleging president trump revealed highly classified information to the russian ambassador in a face-to-face meeting. according to the paper, the information considered so sensiti sensitive, details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the u.s. government. the foreign partner had given the u.s. permission to share the information with russia, and trump's decision to do so reportedly endanger z cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the islamic state. officials told "the post" trump revealed the city in the islamic state's territory where the intelligence partner detected the threat. "the washington post" is withholding the information at the urging of officials within the trump administration who warned it would jep diesz important intelligence capabilities. u.s. officials said this is code word information, terminology that refers to one of the

. >> willie and steve rattner, myself, a lot of the kids chipped in and a lot of people don't know yousomething from all of us. >> give it to me. >> ratner did not kick in. >> sit down and stop it. >> it's fondue. we know you make a lot of fondue. that's our way of saying we love you. >> thank you. >> your first gift. >> you've been so helpful. >> it wasn't on the registry. we spoke to dr. brzezinski and he said you like fondue. willie was pushing more for the candlesticks and we went with fondue. >> as usual, you're an idiot. thank you very much. let's bring into the consideration bill press and on capitol hill former communications director for ted cruz's 2016 presidential campaign, and now -- you know i just turned 50. political contributor rick tyler. rick? >> congratulations. >> thanks. >> love you both. >> way to go, donny. >> derailed you. derail the entire show. >> job numbers. can we thank president trump for that or is that, like, sour grapes? and i should thank president trump for those great numbers? >> a little bit of both. those are good numbers, especially the wage growt

rattner. yesterday steve mnuchin met with caucuses up on capitol hill.ened in speaker ryan's office. people familiar with the meeting wouldn't say what was discussed, only that the neati imeeting us productive. but these hearings will be instructive on how views on tax reform may change. chairman brady is holding a hearing on border adjustment specifically next week. lobbyists say he has been floating a four to five-year phase in for that to see people feel about that even as the senate side knocks it we're been talking about the republican agenda the economic agenda and how that moves forward despite the frenzy of the administration. lawmakers on capitol hill feel a stronger need to actually get legislation passed. to show they are immune from the current frenzy and that they can operate in a silo despite what's going on at white house. >> from what you're hearing, is that true? in a way, just having to deal with the reaction to what's happened with the president, doesn't that divide the party? are they able to come to common messaging? they have member