maybe steve robinson can as well. one of the hardest things in capital planning is the initial cost estimate, because you got very little information in many cases, but you need to make sure you put money in the capital budget that is significant enough to pay attention to. that is a real project. as we get into more detail work there more. we can find some way-there are ways to do this, because we have been seeing this issue-this is not a brand new issue. this has been occurring for years and years and years. cost well above the initial estimate. we could take a different shot at those that just automatically we bump it up more just to account for it and if we are over on some, darn. it will come down a bit. we have to just deal with that issue. steve. >> [indiscernible] for infrastructure. for some project scope or need is fairly well defined we can go into a process in the capital planning phase where we have some level of comfort and based on history that particular facility or work done similar before. confidence

[applause] i mean sure he so but i hear you saying, steve, did robinson discuss sex at all in these pornographyou for asking. yes, he did. he graphically described his own sexual arousal as an adult from the memory of secretly "peeping" on women. aw, that's gonna be a tough one for the gop to defend. "when he said he was 'peeping' on women, he just meant tossing bright yellow marshmallow chicks on ladies!" happy easter. speaking of guy stuff, one key -- any guys here tonight? that's right. one key demo that both harris and trump are fighting for is america's young, white men. the brads and chads. the tylers and kylers. the braydens, jadens, caydens, and aidens. right now, trump has an edge with this group. according to an npr/pbs news/ marist/go go squeeze applesauce poll, trump leads harris among white men without a college degree. of course, in that demo, both of them are trailing far behind big-ass tire. you know its slogan: "yo, i'm gonna punch it." to get these precious man-votes, the fundraising group "white dudes for harris" rolled out a new $10 million ad campaign. [cheers and applause]

republican nominee for governor of north carolina, mark robinson, seen here telling steve urkel to get out of his house robinson offend me news everyone, mark robinson defended pretty much everybody. >> cnn first reported on thursday that over a decade ago robinson made comments on a porn site in which he referred to himself as a black nazi expressed support for reinstating slavery now, what's >> doesn't know how slavery works because you you don't slave yourself i'm not going to say that this is a plot by the democrats to derail mark robinson's campaign. but looking at some of the stuff that he's alleged to have been commenting on on the porn site. all of it didn't feel like stuff a black dude would say some of the verbiage. >> it does feel like i wonder. >> writer would say to be like when a white person pretends that black people vandalized and they put blanche rule does anybody have a guest to the name of the pornographic website where mark robinson was so active say it, pornhub, know that would be normal >> africa this morning new africa. >> website will mark robinson said all thi

hi, steve. >> there were rumors that robinson might withdraw.t night. absentee ballots going out today with robinson's name on that ballot. cnn reporting thursday that there was a pornographic website message board robinson posted to that website calling himself a black nazi saying he wanted to reinstate slavery and calling himself a perv who enjoyed transgender pornography. robinson has denied all these statements saying he is the victim of a hi-tech lynching. >> those are not the words of mark robinson. you know my words and my character and you know that i have been completely transparent in this race and before. our opponents are desperate to shift the focus from the substantive issues and focus on what you are concerned with to salacious tabloid trash. >> a lot of republicans have taken a wait and see attitude toward the allegations. the democratic governor of north carolina said republicans are reaping what they sew for nominating an extreme candidate. former president trump endorsed robinson in march. not clear what effect, if any, this s

but notably, mark robinson's name was not mentioned by any of them. >> and steve trump did appear to be worried about this gender gap. we keep seeing in the polls when it comes to female voters. >> that's right coming into today, he posted this long message on truth social speaking directly to women voters telling them that they were quote, poor, less healthy, less safe more depressed, and less optimistic than they were four years, four years ago, it was quite a lengthy post and he actually read it almost wordrd for word during today's speech. >> and he continued to insist that they will issue of abortion should no longer be on the table because this is now being handled by the states. >> of course, some states have restricted abortion to the point that women are concerned about getting access to health care and whether they can get treatment if they are in dire need of health. that's something that vice president harris has made a central part of her campaign. but look, it's clear that the women's vote is something that trump is really worried about at this stage. age of the race, a

steve kornacki at the big board, thank you. >>> and a major shakeup in a key battleground state as we're learning four top staffers for the republican candidate are resigning as marc robinson battles scandalous allegations against him. now they're worried it could cost president trump votes in this critical swing state. >> reporter: battleground north carolina staking center stage as the scandal and the race for governor is shaking up an already competitive presidential contest in the critical state. >> it's very hard for us to win unless we're able to get north carolina. >> reporter: president trump won the tar heel state in 2016 and again in 2020 by a narrow morning. now it's a neck and neck race. mark robinson is alleged to have made lewd comments on a pornography site years ago, which robinson denies. >> robinson exists because donald trump has lifted him up. >> reporter: his supporters are split on robinson. do you think it could have an impact? >> if it comes down to one person, that would be very disappointing. >> i think he's bad for the election. >> reporter: others have bigger concerns. >> it's the economy. we're retired and we feel it. >> i think money is going

robinson joined the former president at a rally in that state. cnn if contorno is in wilmington, north carolina, which is where the rally for trump will be taking place. moments from now. so steve, what do we know it's a fair question, fred, because mark robinson has joined trump at many of his campaign stops in north carolina over the years. >> however, we are told that he was not invited to today's event. we do have our eyes peeled to see if he makes an appearance anyway, uninvited, i will tell you, just walking around wilmington, north carolina today, the kfile reportedly reporting is certainly the talk of north carolina right now, though trump himself has not directly addressed what came from his protege. hear his campaign, however, telling cnn in his statement, that's trump's campaign is focused on winning the white house, north carolina is a vital part of that plan and we will not take our eye off the ball oh now, part of the challenge for trump in north carolina will breed be reversing recent trends of women voters supporting the democratic nominee instead trump got to work on that early last tonight with a post on truth social where he said that women were poor, less he

i don't think this hurts trump but as to robinson, he is a political zombie if he does not offer a defense to this that is credible. >> steveh senator graham? that this scandal will not hurt trump? >> reporter: it won't in that it will be seen all along as he said back in 2015, if he shoots somebody on 5th avenue he would not lose support t. is not about moral fitness or anything. donald trump the champion of the in addition that fundamentally should be a white country. as long as he upholds that standard he will always, he will never fall below 44% of it in this country because we remain in this fight around the nature of the country and all of the other issues are noise to a certain extent. >> chairman, what do you think? >> reporter: i agree with that completely. i think that is the salute correct analysis of this moment and this moment it is not what we are talking about right now but this moment is part of 2015- present day and ongoing. this has been something that is brewing within our country since the 1930s. certainly within the republican party and it has been a battle within the party at various times to deal with

not be issued and steve, this campaign in north carolina comes on the heels of a cnn investigation that found that the republican candidate for governor in north carolina, mark robinson, made lewd and racist comments on a porn site years ago. how is the trump campaign respond to this knowing that the foreign president endorsed him? >> he endorsed, him and he has spoken at many trump rallies in the past. however, today he was not invited, he did not show up and he wasn't even mentioned by trump or any of the speakers today. and it just shows you how quickly they are trying to distance themselves from robinson and some of the fall regarding him. but however, i will we'll point out that the state gop has so far stood by robinson and trump has not specifically address robinson himself, but his campaign instead saying that they are focused on winning north carolina, realizing how important it is to their path to the white house all right. >> steve contorno there in wilmington, north carolina. thank you so much for that reporting. joining me now is cnn senior political analyst and senior editor at the atlantic. ron brownstein. hi ron. thanks so much for being here with us.

steve berkshire. he says, quote, we expected some bombshells, but not to this devastating extent. mark robinson supporters love his history of confronting issues head on, but he owes it to his supporters to come out swinging and knocked down these allegations, which would be the reaction of an innocent man lieutenant governor robinson, we are waiting and you just heard what governor plenty said that this would be disqualifying if if true. and as you lay out, of course, you've done, you have the receipts on that but it seems like the gop was really thrown by your reporting yeah. >> what's interesting is we've reached out to his campaign. okay tuesday and i want to say 9:00 a.m. we gave them until thursday at 10:00 a.m. to respond to us the deadline comes, we get a call, we talk to experts versus and he asked us to push it back so we can interview lieutenant governor robinson, which we do and we played some of that last night on your show but while that story is, we're getting to interview them details of that story start to leak comments, particularly the black nazi comments started going around

this, despite some republicans in north carolina calling on robinson to drop out of the race, was just 45 days to go until election day cnn's steve contorno has more on how trump is handling this from the site of that rally in wilmington, north carolina donald trump arrived in north carolina on saturday with the state gop and crime racist over its nominee for governor, mark robinson. >> he's this lieutenant governor here, and he has regularly joined donald trump at his campaign events however, we were told he was not biden this one. he did not appear and trump never mentioned mark robinson at all during his remarks. however, he did mention the debate that cnn has invited him to, and he's said he will not be participating. take a listen to why he said he doesn't feel there's a need to debate anymore in this race good a lot of babies that would i've already done to the problem with another debate is it just too late? >> voting is already starting? guarded. she's had her chance to do it with fox. no, fox invited us on and i waited and waited and they turned it down. they turned it down. but now she wants to do a debate right before

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robinson. they said they've been saying they support, they suggest people supports republicans up and down the gop ticket alright, steve contorno borno, keep us posted as you are there in position. >> just when that rally gets underway. alright. brian stelter, let's bring you in. good to see you, bryan welcome back. on the weekends with me. so what how do you assess this? i mean, harris and her campaign have said yes to cnn's invitation and saying that as publicly and first, i'd say that's a big nudge challenge. i mean, kind of goading trump into you know, are you willing to do this too? >> yes. i absolutely right. cnn says in a statement that the network believes this will be good for the country for voters to have another debate. and i think we can all agree that that is the case. think about the two debates we've seen so far this year. both were hugely successful in terms of informing the american people. we learned a lot about biden and then trump in june, and we learned a lot about trump and harris just a few weeks ago. here. now, we look forward to the next few weeks. the only debate currently scheduled as the vi

cnn's steve contorno has more donald trump arrived in north carolina on saturday with the state gop in crisis over their nominee for governor, mark robinsonafter a cnn kfile report showed that he posted to a pornography website's several years ago claiming that he was, quote, a black nazi mark robinson has appeared in the past at trump events. however, he was not invited, did not show up and was not mentioned at all during trump's remarks. however, trump did mention the debate invitation. he received on saturday from cnn and he said thanks, but no thanks. >> although good entertainment value, a lot of people do it, it's great entertainment i've already done to the problem with another debate is that it's just too late. voting has already started. she's had her chance to do it with fox. no, fox invited us on and i waited and waited they turned it down. they turned it down, but now she wants to do a debate right before the election with cnn because she's losing badly. it's too late to do another i'd love to in many ways, but it's too late. the voting is cast worth noting, donald trump did participate in october debates in 2016 and in 2020 a