before we get on steve scheffler, we want to check. did a republican really say that? yes he did in an interview in 2006 with the "minneapolis star-tribune." governor pawlenty said -- so congressman bachmann was telling the truth when she said that. steve scheffler, one of the minnesota candidates, do we lose one of them tomorrow at the straw poll? >> i think they both have to do very well tomorrow. i don't think that if they come in third place, that it's necessarily a death nail but i think it will help their candidacies if they come in a close first or second so yeah there is a lot at stake here but i would say they would have to end up in at least the top three, that's for sure. >> at least the top three. candy, you talked to senator santorum today. he's one of the lesser known candidate bus he says that he has to come in the top five. explain to our viewers, this event has nothing, nothing to do with delegates, nothing do with who gets to be the nominee officially and yet a pretty good history. anything you say, it is a bit of a circus act and has pushed some incr