real estate, i would think that should be able to get through >> and you're a coo, i mentioned steve schwartzman a business participant from this community in this administration, is there any insight that you could share that he has in terms of where he sees things going? >> you know, steve has these conversations, and one of the reasons he's trusted by all parties is because he holds them pretty close to the vest he has direct dialogue and is candid on these things i think all of us are watching this, obviously, concerned on the trade side because we believe in the importance of trade and investment, and as i said, i think all of us are hopeful there will be resolution here, but it's hard to be confident when these things will settle soon. >> right well, europe, perhaps, there's maybe, just at least judging from kudlow's comments, to be a bit more there looking at the first quarter, why? >> well, relative to the u.s., if european growth may be slower than the u.s., as investors, it's also about price. you know, where is that price relative to other markets? and there's still some legacy distre