. >> i was talking with steve silverman the other day. and how writing this book was the investigative journey. so very much it was a process that i have a journey of discovery i need to figure out what i need to know what is empowering for me and what is a story i need to reclaim and how does this help everyone else out there because there are so many of us out there. so that's what came out. the real quotation for other people to find their own journeys. >> and what has been on my reading list for a while do you have any other recommendations of those that are up-to-date and the experience of to be neuro- divergent? and for what is more scientific quick. >> you can actually go to our twitter feed. i'm not just saying that that i will reach we right now. on twitter i do shout out other books and a lot of people seem to appreciate it these came out in 2020 alone divergent authors and we want this information in the realm of psychology but that's what we want to see. and into the wider world. so in terms of my recommendation. and that to d