i brought the letter that steve tabor wrote you last week that was too late to bring in, senior member of the nob hill housing. it says, in agreement with your position that providing 15 affordable, a milk -- condominium and instead of and in lieu fee is not an efficient or effective way to provide affordable housing. he gives three reasons. one is the one that i tell thee, that it will be divided project and people will be outvoted. those 15 will be outvoted by the people who have a different agenda and different interests. and two technical things that relate to funding. to it being an ineffective way to bring in subsidies, and they will be building to higher standards than it would be built somewhere else. so it is like the leveraging the money. also, he concluded, there is an argument that could be made that on-site housing would help integrate income groups, but that in lieu fee in the same neighborhood would have that effect, you know, while providing affordable housing. [bell rings] that the developer said that he could do the project, and it was 15 units, after all. or i could