townsend. steven brill contributes to "the this month's cover story, "are we any safer." and jeffrey goldberg writes for the atlantic and he's also a visiting fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace. steve, i want the start with you. you worked for a year on this article, "are we any safer," and i apologize, but can you boil it down into an answer? >> in only 20 words. >> well, we're along stronger because of the work of the people like fran did and tens of thousands of others and the on we strengthened our defense, but the nature of the threat has changed and evolved in a way that arguably in many ways makes us less safe. >> dickerson: fran, are we adapting to that environment that steve describeed? >> you'll appreciate, john, what happens is we never adapt fast enough. as you heard from the chairman of the intelligence committee, the threat has metastasized and spread. we have more bad guys in more different places now. you add to that the internet and the radicalization that happens over the internet, even very late to that game as a government across two administrations, frankly, and that is a problem. we don't treat the internet as a battle space as we this land, air and sea. >> di