for getting perspective from general wesley clarke, a pure unabused source if you don't count his various rules with 90 private and publicly traded companies. now, steveflict leaving no one alive to go to war with china? >> the answer is, absolutely. russia is a nation that's next to the united states, the most armed nuclear weapon state in the world. that borders that this ukraine conflict is touching are right along the lines of poland and other nato nations, and if any of those nations are attacked, then it, you know, brings together what they call article five or the all for one, one for all maxim of nato, and we all have to defend each other. we will be at war with russia at that point. and given our armaments, given the military and given some of the success of volodymyr zelenskyy and the ukrainians in fighting russia, this could be something that, out of frustration, putin goes nuclear, and then we have a very big problem. >> but listen, if i know vladimir putin, he wants to project strength, and if feels humiliated, he could lash out, which would be great for our ratings, sure, but terrible for humanity. that's why we should not say that vladi