. >> reporter: the chair, arkansas congressman steve womack came back and announced some states had withdrawn their petition, meaning there was no longer enough support to hold a vote on rules. what happened is the trump campaign killed the last-minute revolt but it's not over. conservatives want closed primaries where only republicans can vote. that's what this is really about, to improve the chances of someone like a ted cruz. nothing that happened yesterday will change that. the rnc meets every year between now and 2020. for reality check, i'm sam brock. back to you. >>> some of the political fever in cleveland is just that, fever from norovirus. at least one staff member from the california delegation has fallen ill. the stomach bug gained notoriety in recent years for making hundreds of people wrenching ill aboard cruise ships. the 550 delegates, alternates and guests were avoiding shaking hands with others. >>> in cleveland house speaker paul ryan just wrapped up his speech. stay with nbc bay area for the ratest. we'll pick up our coverage at 7:00 tonight. >>> hillary clinton is breakin

steve womack: in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it.l vote. [continue] >> point of order. steve womack: is anybody seeking recognition? >> point of order. point of order. >> turn on the microphone so we can be heard. steve womack: the chair, the chair recognizes the delegate from utah. [cheers] [booing] feel right, i make a motion that we have a rollcall vote on the rules. [booing] [cheers] [gavel] steve womack: the secretary received a request from a total of nine states requesting a rollcall vote on adoption of report of the committee on rules. subsequently, the secretary causedd withdraws, which three states to fall below the threshold required under the rules. accordingly -- [cheers] accordingly, the chair has found insufficient support for the request for a record vote. [cheers] [booing] [chanting "trump"] steve womack: ok [indiscernible] [gavel] >> point of information? steve womack: the chair note recognizes the delegate from the state of west virginia for the purposes of authoring a resignation. kotter from west virginia. i offe

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congressman steve womack who was cheering the proceedings called for a quick voice vote.enator ted cruz is scheduled to speak wednesday at the convention, but he is telling politico he is not ready to endorse the likely nominee, donald trump. he says there is a lot of despair that trump is the party's standardbearer. he accuses of -- accuses the media playing a role in his ascension, saying he received three ilion dollars in free media. hillary clinton is condemning the killing of three police officers in baton rouge, louisiana, saying this madness has to stop. she made the comment addressing the naacp convention in cincinnati. she said the recent killings of police officers in dallas and baton rouge gotten the ability of the nation to make progress. white house press secretary josh earnest says president obama has not called the turkish president p.nce friday's failed cou he says the u.s. is cooperating with nato to determine accomplices but is urging the regime to show restraint and uphold human rights. some 6000 suspects were detained over the weekend including hundred

steve womack leading the way, gaveling through yesterday two voice votes instead of a roll call vote.k, cruz -- no one understands his motivation really because he begins to look very bad, very small. and we do understand when ken cucinelli, the former attorney general of virginia, says that he just wants to be heard, you know -- liz: yeah. and by the way, lou, we showed him just now throwing his credential down on the floor which was, you know, the drama moment. >> they want to relitigate it. yeah, they want to relitigate it, they want a revote, and there won't be one. the trump people have been pretty nice. paul manafort and reince priebus had been very accommodative. this was, this was i think as the british might say i'm hanging around varney too long, you know? it's bad form. [laughter] liz: bad form. okay. let's get to the night's speakers. paul ryan slated for tonight, but just yesterday he was at a "wall street journal" luncheon in cleveland and said, quote: trump is not my kind of conservative. but then he called upon republicans to rally behind trump nonetheless. sort of fai

. >> reporter: arkansas congressman steve womack the presiding officer put the disputed rules to the the vote, two times ape declared them approved, blocking the anti trump effort despite vocal objection by trump opponents. despite unusual start the focus eventually shift todd keynote speakers highlighting monday's theme of make america safe again. >> we're going to win so big, thank you very much. we're going to win so big. >> reporter: trump himself making an early convention appearance to take in a speech by wife melania. >> donald intend to represent all of the people, not just some of the people. that includes jews, muslims, it includes hispanics, african-americans and asians and the poor and middle class. >> reporter: tomorrow's theme make america work again with ufc president dana white a monk featured speakers. in cleveland, joe walled man, "fox news". >>> coming up at 4:15 controversy surrounding melania trump did she copy her speech. a new poll released takes aid deep lear at how americans actually feel about donald trump's life. >>> donald trump has speculatedd naming cabi

instead it was congressman steve womack from alabama. all in all, a lot of drama if you're into rules drama. and there are a couple of things going forward on the presidential vote or vice presidential vote that they could do. >> is it wise of the convention planners to allow these forces who really aren't going to go away, you can't change how people feel when they arrive at the convention, is there a kind of release of steam they can build into the gathering? >> well, that would have been the vote today. but i think what's true is that the trump people feared that there were 300 to 400 delegates who were pledged to vote for donald trump on a presidential ballot but are not really supporters of his. so if they had allowed a roll call vote, that would have allowed that expression to carry out, they still probably would have won the rules vote but it would have been sort of a real, even more of a jab in terms of party unity so they took the lesser of two evils which was the somewhat heavy-handed tactics on roll call vote. >> so dual quest

>> reporter: i'm standing rights here behind the washington delegation, and -- the brought in steve womackpublican congressman from arkansas to preside over this portion of the convention. they often asked him to preside over contentious debates on the house floor. the g.o.p. convention rules are the same in many respects as the house floor. you have paul ryan or reince priebus presiding. what you do when they had the rules package vote, you do this live voice. everybody shouts yea or nay and there's a key term. in the opinion of the chair -- that determines whether or not the yeas or the nays have it in this case, womack determined that the ayes had and it that's what ignited this fire storm on the floor. you had members of virginia delegation, shouting, shame, shame. you could then, according to how g.o.p. convention rules go mealsly to a roll call vote. it is the opinion of the chair but in this case, womack's gaveled through the virginia delegation was apo electric tick. if you remember in 2012, there were efforts by the main delegation and the texas delegation to -- [inaudible] -- the

steve womack, the presiding officer, came out after the first voice vote went through.ice vote, and then when a point of order was called said they didn't have the signatures that you said you had. , a said you had nine majority of delegates from nine states, you said three had rescinded their signatures. do know what happened? guest: i know exactly what happened. there was a lot of music being played during that time. .hat was to stall that was a stall tactic. we were pulling the delegates -- they have all the names of these delegates. ,hey pulled him off the floor threatened, intimidated, whatever they do to them. they did that in order for them to remove their names off of those. i know specifically was done to iowa. iowa is the one that got the state pulled off, because three delegates remove their names from the list. host: did you talk to those delegates? when you mean by threats and intimidating, specifically, what were they threatening? guest: i will give you an example. committeeman has told everybody, all the time, that in order for iowa to keep their first in

arkansas congressman steve womack wielding the gavel and rejected a roll call vote. >> all those in the say aye, all those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair the ayes have it and the resolution is agreed to. without objection the motion to reconsider is laid upon the table. martha: this got people going. we don't normally see this playing out on the convention floor. but a screaming match ensued between ken cuccinelli and senator mike lee. >> the existing rules don't adequately compensate those states that consistently voted republican. >> the delegates are there. >> you are making my point for me. this is about the future of the party. at any convention we have an opportunity at that convention for delegates from across the country to weigh in on the rules. martha: this is the last gasp. bill: mike lee conceded to me that trump will be the nominee. but he said he would be a stronger nominee if you allow this to go forward. i asked cuccinelli about it and he said we have more ideas here. it's likely he will have something submitted in writing. martha: the rnc said they needed 10 s

congressman steve womack took care by using a voice vote twice. is in real trouble. and then ted cruz does absolutely amuses -- abuses everyone and walks off the stage to a furious crowd. that was going to be a big deal. we watched the biggest bounce in 1 years for donald trump. and i saw a caution -- i caution that maybe the folks here may figure out a way. >> it was the republicans, the rebels won. here the rebellion was put down. i think that's a real problem for democrats. lou: drew weingarten talking right now. let's listen to what she is saying. >> defense of the middle class. just look at trump university to see how he operates, exploits people's fears. and i quote a single parent that may need money for food is a useless high cost. instead of an education, people paid thousands of dollars and got nothing in return. that's trump in a nutshell. manipulating people's fears to enrich himself. he's completely unqualified to be in the oval office. so thankfully we have a different choice and it's a great one. lou: indicating again, if we may, th

steve womack: the chair note recognizes the delegate from the state of west virginia for the purposes of authoring a resignation. kotter from west virginia. i offer the following resolution and ask for it immediate consideration. resolved the report on the platform be considered as adopted. mr. chairman, for the purposes of explaining the report only, i am honored to yield to the cochairs of the committee, senator john barrasso, governor mary fallin, and congresswoman virginia foxx. thank you. ♪ >> good evening and welcome to c-span's live gavel to gavel coverage of the republican national convention. delegates are returning to the quicken loans arena and cleveland, ohio after an afternoon session that included a spoiled rules challenge. 7:50java will come down at p.m., and the event focuses on national security issues and a speech by melania trump. skyboxgs from c-span's overlooking the podium here at quicken loans center. we are setting the stage what is happening tonight, both from a policy and politics standpoint. we have the washington bureau chief of the wall street journal, and

steve womack, the presiding officer, came out after the first voice vote went through.id a second voice vote, and then when a point of order was called said they didn't have the signatures that you said you had. , a said you had nine majority of delegates from nine states, you said three had rescinded their signatures. do know what happened? guest: i know exactly what happened. there was a lot of music being played during that time. .hat was to stall that was a stall tactic. we were pulling the delegates -- they have all the names of these delegates. ,hey pulled him off the floor threatened, intimidated, whatever they do to them. they did that in order for them to remove their names off of those. i know specifically was done to iowa. iowa is the one that got the state pulled off, because three delegates remove their names from the list. host: did you talk to those delegates? when you mean by threats and intimidating, specifically, what were they threatening? guest: i will give you an example. committeeman has told everybody, all the time, that in order for iowa to keep