can we today produce a bill gates, a steve wozniak, a steve jobs?, the california public school system, for example, is broken. but i have a very hopeful segment on this special. about a guy in california who started a website where he has 3,000 videos, video modules where he teaches math and science which have been watched 80 million time by students all over the world. gates is a big fan of this program. he's given it a lot of money. and it is a revolutionary way of teaching math and science. much more interactive. . more customized. so there's always innovation going on in america. when you get very down, you look at people like that and you say, maybe we're not going to be able to fix this big education bureaucracy. maybe we'll to have reinvent it or do an end run around it. this guy is one example of this. a lot of education reform that's bottom up. not top down. >> speaking of hope, i guess. let's talk about debt. while i have you. i want to ask but the turmoil in europe. we know the president is there. gp 20. today big concern as you know is

we'll tell you the story behind these pictures of steve wozniak at google headquarters. >>> what the heck is an ultra marathon? it's nearly four marathons back to back all on the same day. we'll show you a young man w asthma who is conconquering plenty. it's the way to brew everyone's favorite cup in under a minute. way to brew. rob high yesterday de >>> to finish a marathon is a great accomplishment. imagine what it must feel like to finish an ultra marathon, 100 miles at once, running. lawrence scott introduces us to a south bay teenager who does it all with asthma. >> reporter: when it comes to avid runners, active marathoners are a serious breed. ultra marathons, which can be 100-mile treks that require a full day to complete, bring out the first of all dedicated. you don't find too many teens with a level of commitment it takes to train and complete such an intense challenge. >> once you start pushing to that distance, it's more about the mental battle touring the race. and less about the training that you've done beforehand. >> reporter: as a child, saratoga's singh battled wit

steve jobs is a college dropout, whatever. he wants to start the 21st century of a printing shop. he want to start a company that makes computers. wozniak is at the other extreme. he's the best engineer you can imagine. as steve jobs says, he's 50 times better than any other engineer. he can hold meetings in his head. but when he creates something including the blue box, the first thing they created which ripped off the phone company for long distance, you know, woz wants to give it to their friends. steve says, no, i can make a really cool case, we can package it and sell it for $66 apiece or whatever and make some money. that's the pattern. steve jobs is the entrepreneur. he knows how to make insanely, you know, great products, well packaged, and sell them. and woz is just this engineer who writes wonderful, you know, code and circuit boards. >> what's interesting about that, i remember this in the franklin book, as well, the innovation -- we think of innovation as entirely a scientific idea. but the innovation is often a kind of business innovation. i remember reading -- we did a show on innovation. and the singer sewing machine, the

. >> jimmy: and you suffered through, what, steve wozniak, the situation, billy ray cyrus, i think.his, in a way, you went to war, too. >> that's one way of putting it, yes, jimmy. but it was all worth it. >> jimmy: when you guys got paired up, did you think, oh, this is good, i could win this this year? >> no, you know, because i didn't know that j.r. was my partner and when producers told me that my partner is a war veteran, my first question is, which war, world war i? so, i wasn't -- you know, i wasn't sure who i was getting. but then i met j.r. and -- it just clicked. >> jimmy: i guess so. and not only that, you were in "people" magazine's sexiest man alive issue this week. [ applause ] with your army buddies -- they must go crazy for this, right? >> no, they're jealous right now, man. they're jealous. but the truth is, they're so proud of me, man and i've been pulling we more. the whole military community has been voting for me in the ten weeks. and jimmy, i just want to thank everyone at home that voted for us for ten weeks. when i had a bad week, they still gave us an opport

. >>> apple co-founder steve wozniak was spotted at google headquarters picking up his own nexus smartfriday. wozniak was reportedly invited to pick up the device from the mountain view campus after tweeting he was looking for the smart phone at best buy. the samsung galaxy nexus went on sale in the u.k. last week. early tests show it outperformed the iphone 4s in some areas. wozniak says he's a fan of technology and usually carries several phones on him. the much anticipated galaxy nexus has not arrived in the u.s. yet. >>> still to come, the state is short. that means california may cut more state programs and services. we're going to talk with political analyst larry ger ston about that. first, here's mike with your weekend community calendar. >>> there's lots to do today in the bay. in the spirit of will lard scott, let's start with a birthday wish. jose turns 234. still big in high tech, san jose turns 234. the folks at history san jose are celebrating. you can join in by heading downtown. the historic site. you can meet some descendents of san jose founders and share the city's b

he met there a guy called steve wozniak, more technically oriented, his friendly he founded apple computern to live in california at a time at the had the greatest highways, the greatest infrastructure in a world and the greatest infrastructure. today, california has one of the worst public education systems in the country. our country's education system is ranked at the bottom of the industrialized world. california today spends more money today on prisons than it does on higher education. we have gutted research and development, and i do not have to tell you about the quality of infrastructure. we know what it takes to fix these problems because we used to be there. we just have to look around and recognize we're going to have to make hard choices. we're going to have to put aside ideology, and we are going to have to focus on the extraordinary opportunities but the extraordinary competition we face. i leave you with this thought -- i do not think there is any reason for us to be scared or fearful or anxious, but we have to recognize this time it is different. i guess what i am is saying

he met there a guy called steve wozniak, more technically oriented, his friendly he founded apple computerto live in california at a time at the had the greatest highways, the greatest infrastructure in a world and the greatest infrastructure. today, california has one of the worst public education systems in the country. our country's education system is ranked at the bottom of the industrialized world. california today spends more money today on prisons than it does on higher education. we have gutted research and development, and i do not have to tell you about the quality of infrastructure. we know what it takes to fix these problems because we used to be there. we just have to look around and recognize we're going to have to make hard choices. we're going to have to put aside ideology, and we are going to have to focus on the extraordinary opportunities but the extraordinary competition we face. i leave you with this thought -- i do not think there is any reason for us to be scared or fearful or anxious, but we have to recognize this time it is different. i guess what i am is saying v

if you look at the store of steve jobs and wozniak, bill gates and paul alan, what they did was go out and be completely bold and completely unconventional in how they did everything. the instrumentation that they built, their vision about how they wanted to get there and how they ran their businesses. >> charlie: in order for obama to win, the president to win re-election he has to own it. >> i think the other piece is you've got to risk being roughed up to get to the center. there's not been a lot of evidence that this president has been willing to be roughed up. it's a tough game and he's now beginning to understand that more it seems to me. we'll see whether it works to his advantage or not. you go back and look at other successful presidents. john kennedy was an example you. he was an aristocratic guy but he's a street fighter. >>> indeed and actually relished it. >> and he lovedt and that's the nature i ronald reagan was never above the fray. he was this elegant guy but when hegot to a so down in new hampshire with george bush and they were going to have an gument about who was g