. >> you had these guys like steve jobs and steve wozniak and bill gates and paul allen messing around what would become the personal computer industry. but no one in corporate america and no one in most of the homes of america thought that the personal computer was anything that would ever have, would ever even happen, let alone have any relevance to them. >> for all of us, the computer revolution was really exciting. it was like, wow, this is wide-open. >> it was a group of people who want to make a change in the world. and eventually, the two forces in silicon valley, the hobbyists and the button-down business guys, ended up coming together when the chipmakers realized the things that the hobbyists were doing could lead to this whole new kind of product called a personal computer. >> it was at a home-grown computer club where steve wozniak and steve jobs first displayed the computer they'd been working on. and it caused a sensation. >> we had absolutely no idea what people were going to do to these things when we started out. as a matter of fact, the two people who it was designed f

emily: quickly, tell me about steve wozniak skipping out on steve jobs' funeral?s was a shocker. i sat down with them and we hit -- we whether the history. i said, tell me about the memorial service. that was pretty intense. he was like, oh, i didn't go. and i said, you weren't invited? he said no, i was invited, i was busy. i was like, what? what are you talking about? he was like i was on a plane to europe. i just thought, oh, now i understand the depth of this rift between not just jobs and laws, but the engineer, the creative type who is really making these technologies and the entrepreneurial conduit to that is really -- i don't know, probably too much money and silicon valley. i'm not so happy with that side of the valley. isly: adam fisher, there much more in the valley of genius. theheir own words, uncensored words of silicon valley. thank you for stopping by. adam: thank you. emily: tesla ceo elon musk serves -- stirs up the twitter sphere. both of the ceo and tesla stock prices are going down. this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪ a former apple engineer pleaded not gu

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