steven brill discussing his article to answer the question are we any safer? it is the cover story in the september session of "the atlantic." welcome back. >> thanks, charlie. >> rose: why pursue this question of all the questions you could be asking and pursuing. >> i was curious to document and see how we had done. i did a book in 2003 about the immediate aftermath and the standing up of the department of homeland security and other than as a citizen, i hadn't paid muspaid -- hadn't paid much attention to it sense but had a vague sense that we spent a ton of money and a lot of dedicated people were doing a lot of good things but that the record might be really interesting and really mixed. turns out the record is mixed. >> rose: but it's clear, we are safer. >> we are stronger. we have much stronger homeland security defenses because of the tens of thousands of men and women who now work at it every day. sometimes -- >> rose: but why doesn't that make us stronger? >> because there are two things that are part of the equation. one our defenses, the other is

we'd like to welcome back steven brill back to studio 57. good morning. >> good morning.ings to make us safer. there are tens of thousands of men and women who make up every morning in the last 15 years doing yeoman's work to try to keep us safer. but the kinds of threats that we faced on 9/11 have expanded and have multiplied. in part because we went into iraq and -- you know -- >> let's talk about the threat and what we can do to make us safer. >> well, the kind of orchestrated threat that i write about the bio terror threat. the threat of a dirty bomb where someone can go into a hospital and fuel some radiological material very easily and mix it with a stand explosive, and create a bomb that causes radiation contamination that will scare people. and scare the country so much that we may evacuate -- have to evacuate, a large portion of lower manhattan or something or something like that. that's the kind of orchestrated threat. lone wolf who can go into a gun store, uniquely, in this country, and buy an assault rival and then shoot up a shopping mall or theater. and if h

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later, steven brill of "the atlantic" asks if we are safer since 9/11. you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. ♪ >> it was a night of victories in arizona and florida or the incumbents. john mccain will go on to the federal election in arizona. in florida, senator marco rubio and democrat debbie wasserman schultz were both victorious. it is the "washington journal." ofthe last days of august 3016. both the donald trump campaign and a hillary clinton campaigns have traded comments over releasing personal health records. there are calls about donald trump's tax records being released. how much personal information shut a candidate release, and should go beyond health and financial information? if you want to give us your thoughts on the type of information and records candidates should release, (202) 748-8001 four republicans. (202) 748-8000 four democrats. for independence. you can post on her facebook page. that aearlier in august polling company asked people about personal records of presidential candidates and how much should be released

as we approach the 15th anniversary of 9/11, journalist steven brill spent the past year looking intohe country has changed since that terrible day, what's been spent, and what gaps still exist. his article "are we any safer?" appears in the latest issue of "the atlantic," and i recently" sat down with him and asked what he learned. >> in a nutshell, what i concluded was the way we've responded to the terrorist attacks, to 9/11 which, you know, changed everything, is sort of a microcosm of what we are as a country today. a lot of it was heroic, ingenious, people going beyond the cause of duty, doing great things, and lot of it was the opposite. a lot of beltway boondoggles, billions of dollars wasted because government contractors promised technologies ands solutions that they couldn't produce, and we've struggled as a country with dealing with the notion of this new kind of risk. the idea, as president bush explained, after 9/11, of never again, we're never going to have a terrorist attack again, that's just unrealistic in today's world. >> you clearly give the government and two adm

a new article by steven brill answers the question are we any safer? s the cover story for the september story of "the atlantic." what made you pursue this? steven: i was curious to document and see how we had done. i did a book in 2003 about the immediate aftermath and the standing of the department of homeland security. as a citizen i had not paid much attention to it. we had spent a timeout money -- timeout money. but the record might be interesting and mixed. the record is next. charlie: but it is clear we are safer. steven: we are stronger. we have more defenses because of the men and women who work at it every day. charlie: why doesn't that make us stronger? >> there are two things in the equation. offense. the offense has multiplied. it is much more diffuse. we went into iraq and cause turmoil in that part of the world. many more threats, different kinds of threats and we haven't even completely responded to the threats we faced on 9/11. after the attacks there were the anthrax attacks. we haven't made progress we need in dealing with bioterroris

a new article by steven brill answers the question -- are we any safer?t is the cover story for the september issue of "the atlantic." welcome. >> thanks, charlie. charlie: what made you pursue this? of all the questions you could be asking and pursuing? steven: i was curious to document and see how we had done. i did a book in 2003 about the immediate aftermath and the standing up of the department of homeland security. as a citizen i had not paid uch attention to it. i had this vague sense that intercept a tounch money and that there were a lot of dedicated people doing a lot of very good things, but that the record might be really interesting and really mixed. it turned out the record is mixed. charlie: but it is clear we are safer. steven: we are stronger. we have more defenses because of the men and women who work at it every day. charlie: why doesn't that make us stronger? >> there are two things in the equation. one is our defense, which is stronger. the other is the offense. the offense has multiplied. it is much more diffused. in part because we

later, steven brill of "the atlantic" asks if we are safer since 9/11. can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. ♪ >> it was a night of victories in arizona and florida or the incumbents. john mccain will go on to the federal election in arizona. in florida, senator marco rubio and democrat debbie wasserman schultz were both victorious. it is the "washington journal." ofthe last days of august 3016. both the donald trump campaign and a hillary clinton campaigns have traded comments over releasing personal health record

one manager says the entire system is broken is lawyer and author steven brill, he wrote a book called "america's bitter pill," money, politics, back room deals and a fight to fix our broken health care system. we bring him in. steven, you wrote this book before all this stuff we're talking about came out. why do you say the system is broken and has been for some time? >> well, it wasn't before all this stuff happened. it's before the press started to focus on it. in this case with epipen there was a salvadi before that. sitting here listening to you and let's sort of step back for a second because i think this whole thing is a metaphor for how crazy and dysfunctional the system is. you have a company that has said we are selling something for $600. we used to sell it for $100. it's the exact same product. now we're simply going to take the brand name off it, but we promise you it's the exact same product and now it's going to be $300. it used to be $100, but now it's a great bargain at $300 because it's half the price of the $600. that is insane. there is no other consumer product in